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Old 11-05-2012, 08:10 PM   #1
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Teaching proper road etiquette..

Teaching of Proper Road Etiquette....
I am sure I will open a can of worms here but after this weeknds trip I must make a comment about teaching new riders proper road etiquette.

While on my weekend trip to Arkansas I experienced what I call poor road etiquette by some Cruiser/Wing riders. I am all for a group ride, but when the group gets bigger than 8-10 riders there needs to be some thought put into your effects you force onto other riders or drivers.
While traversing Hwy 123 in Arkansas this weekend we came upon a LARGE group of riders on cruisers and Wings. When I say Large I estimate that there were roughly 20 bikes in this group on some very nice twisty roads. Not a Bad thing except they were stretched out for close to a 1/4 mile and myself and a fellow rider were forced to make a choice of following them for roughly 10-15 miles of excellent road or make what I would call a couple of dangerous passes (poor road etiquette on our part).
When it was all said and done we were at a gas station in Jasper when I come out to the pumps to see one of the Wing riders lecturing my fellow rider. Granted i did not here the whole conversation but he was basically upset that we had made these passes on there group and that my riding buddy had made the passes on three seperate ocassions because he had gone back to find a rider from our group and passed them getting back to us.
Then he had to pass them again because he was waiting for myself and another rider and they passed him while he was sitting on the side of the road. When this wing rider honked at a stop sign my buddy thought it was the guy we were looking for since he was on the same color wing, so he allowed him to come past him only to realize that it was not our buddy.
Needless to say I came out while he was lecturing my buddy and I had to comment to him that it was basicaslly BS that we were even forced to pass a group of that size on a twisty mountain road because we wanted to ride a more brisk pace. His response to us was that they had NEW riders with them and that we could be freaking them out due to us having to cut into their group because we could not make the pass without doing so. He says there is no place to allow us to pass on a double yellow road. I told him that this is BS cause they could have pulled to the right of the lane and allowed the faster riders to pass.
I have had to do this many times to allow riders faster than me to pass in a safe manner rather than endangering us with some crazy pass. If you are teaching NEW riders you should start with proper road etiquette and that would include being aware of your surroundings including what is behind you. We as a group never ride in groups larger than 10 bikes and we watch our surroundings and if someone faster than us comes up behind us we pull to the right and wave them past. We teach this to all our NEW riders and if you are not teaching this you need to keep your mouth shut on some ride and just deal with it when you force other riders and drivers to endanger you and your fellow riders because you think you own the road.



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Old 11-05-2012, 08:27 PM   #2
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Send 'em my way, I'll teach them how to ride that Wing!
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:44 PM   #3
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So now the truth is out, the guy was really pissed he was passed by a fellow wing rider.:-)


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Old 11-05-2012, 11:52 PM   #4
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Totally agree! There's nothing more frustrating then when a group of Harley riders take up all lanes of traffic on the highway and want to do 55 in a 70.. But want to get pissed off or give you bad looks when you ride close to there rear, to show them you'd like to get around! The least they could do is switch lanes every once in awhile to let cars and other bikes through, instead of pretty much setting up a rolling road block!

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Old 11-06-2012, 12:12 AM   #5
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Last year I went to a 9-11 memorial ride... Needless to say, full of Harley's n cruisers. Me and 5 buddies of mine all street bikes on our way to cooks corner to meet up for the ride. Well the road is a little twisty and I personally enjoy going fast and leaning but as I lean by a group of about 30+ Harley's they didn't like it so much nor did the group I caught up to or the group after that lol. Reason I knew that they were mad is because 2 of my buddies were newish and felt it was out if their comfort zone to go at the pace me and the 2 others that kept up with me. Oh well
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:50 AM   #6
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Couldn't you guys have just waited? There must have been some sector of road that you guys came up on, that allowed you to see at least eight riders deep. You and your crew could have shoot the shit for a bit, then blast the twisties.
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Dirt on both sides trees and a horse ranch and there was no waiting for us it's a memorial ride there were 2000+ Harley's so that road was non stop with them


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The ONLY time I hear another motorycyle rider bitching and crying about someone else's riding is because they don't like being passed. Every time! Especially if they "think" they are "really" going fast already, they have this thing where in their mind you MUST be wrong to pass them. Let 'em cry.
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what excuse would you give a cop who saw you cross a solid yellow line during the pass ? nothing that would justify the pass. you deserved the lecture and are lucky thats all you got. if you cannot accept a consequence, don't act. on the other hand you are correct, the other group should have allowed your pass by courteously moving right allowing everyone to ride as they see fit. some people can't see how their actions affect others. nonetheless, two wrongs don't .......
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It's a tough scenario but the other guys were being road hogs IMO. Slower traffic to the right, there is no reason for them to hold up faster traffic, they should have let you by (give up the left half or even pull over). If they had been nice about it the situation would not exist, you would not have to consider a dangerous pass. I have had many a biker wave me by simply because they were aware and I was faster. I have done the same on a day when I was escorting newbies but I have also suggested some break in rides that didn't include twisty roads.

And sometimes you have to decide it's not worth the risk and slow your ride down. Because it's a very real scenario that you could distract some newbie who maybe shouldn't even be on that road and he would crash. Everyone involved needs to own their actions, them for slowing you down and you for making a pass that would be considered risky.

I've done both so I won't be on the jury.
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