Who does and who dosn't??

[DickBlazer]

I bought a quickshifter from SBS and it was certainly one of the best purchases I've ever made for any motorcycle. And it does seem to help with downshifts as well. That could be placebo though.

Even before the QS I hated to pull the clutch. Once you train yourself to not use the clutch it's rather simple and seems to keep me more in tune with the bike. Which is also placebo probably.

Certainly can't chastise anyone for using the clutch though. If you miss a clutchless shift it feels like you've f*cked something up. But I've done it dozens of times with no issues on any bike I've owned.

[imdying]

Originally Posted by Visionary

So...i can ride the engine to rev limiter let off throttle and quickly shift up and get back on the throttle without damaging the tran?

As unlikely as that sounds, yes. Taking away the engine/trans load is all that a quick shifter does, except to reduce load it cuts the spark for a brief period instead of closing the gas and opening it again (which is obviously a lot slower, you can't open and close the throttle in 80ms). Doing it down the box isn't much use if you're going quick, and you might as well rape the slipper clutch you paid good money for

[WC1000rr]

So it looks like upshit from 2nd and up is not a prob but down shift maby use the clutch. I have never had any issues with this yet but that why I asked..

Will a quick shifter help much with this or converting it to the GP shift pattern??

[imdying]

When you're going down just nail it down through the box with the clutch in, then let it out and assuming you're on the brakes hard the slipper will take up the slack and you'll get minimal snaking of the rear end.

When to change to the GP shift pattern will become apparent on the track soon enough... when you're fully cranked left and need to snick another gear it means you can do it, rather than not having the room between the track and the gear lever (for your foot!). On the road you'll never ever need it, and if you do you're probably leaving very little in reserve to deal with crap/gravel/diesel/cows so it's unlikely it'll be a problem for long

[WC1000rr]

Ok cool no GP shift on the street.

I will be using the bike on the track so slipper clutch very soon will be a good idea currently I am running the stock clutch

[erick1670]

while without the QS I used it for up and downshifts, dont want to mess my trany
with QS only for downshifts...

when I dint have the QS for my first 2 track days, my hand was cramping just past half day.... love that QS shyt

[imdying]

Originally Posted by WC1000rr

Ok cool no GP shift on the street.

I will be using the bike on the track so slipper clutch very soon will be a good idea currently I am running the stock clutch

You won't miss it mate, I've only needed it when I've been going like a bat out of hell on a 2 stroke 250 round a long left sweeper.

If you have an 08+ you have a slipper, it's just not super flash like the Sigma etc ones. It's still a riot to use though

[D0minate]

I always use clutch on both.. I don't take any chances.

[RC-DEVIL]

wtf?!....i thought ur suppose to clutch in up or down shifting.....this is really news to me

i could never even imagine not using the clutch i feel like it would be harder on the bike

[DickBlazer]

Originally Posted by RC-DEVIL

wtf?!....i thought ur suppose to clutch in up or down shifting.....this is really news to me

i could never even imagine not using the clutch i feel like it would be harder on the bike

I'm not convinced clutchless shifts are very hard on the bike if done correctly. I've owned three liter bikes and not had one issue with any clutches. Even the 08 CBR that had the clutch recall, had zero issues. Once you start doing them, you'll never even think about the clutch when shifting. It will seem like too much effort. haha serioiusly

I'm not trying to start shit here and it's all personal preference for sure