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post #1 of 18 Old 12-18-2012, 11:13 AM Thread Starter
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post #2 of 18 Old 12-18-2012, 11:58 AM
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Interesting survey, but the only option you had for traction control and quick shift included ABS. I despise ABS, but would love traction control and quick shift on a new bike. You might get better results if you separated them into individual options.
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Interesting survey, but the only option you had for traction control and quick shift included ABS. I despise ABS, but would love traction control and quick shift on a new bike. You might get better results if you separated them into individual options.
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Interesting survey, but the only option you had for traction control and quick shift included ABS. I despise ABS, but would love traction control and quick shift on a new bike. You might get better results if you separated them into individual options.

TC piggybacks on ABS. can't have TC without ABS.
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No offense..but a waste of time. And it kept saying there was an error in submitting my answers.


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post #6 of 18 Old 12-19-2012, 01:24 PM
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TC piggybacks on ABS. can't have TC without ABS.
not true.

you can add a delta traction control system easily to any bike.. Bazzaz is an example of this. no wheel speed sensors, or other parts needed. its really just software code.

a wheel speed traction control system can also be put on a bike, and not add an ABS box. the ECU could do the whole thing.


or even with ABS and TC...an ABS equipped bike could have a ABS off/TC on option.
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All the extras are fine (not needed for my riding though). But these bike prices are getting up there. Dont want a CBR that costs 16k though. Not for 6 years anyway

'09 Honda CBR1000RR Repsol
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09 CBR Repsol NADA $8865
09 CBR non-Repsol NADA $7605
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Difference $1265
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not true.

you can add a delta traction control system easily to any bike.. Bazzaz is an example of this. no wheel speed sensors, or other parts needed. its really just software code.

a wheel speed traction control system can also be put on a bike, and not add an ABS box. the ECU could do the whole thing.


or even with ABS and TC...an ABS equipped bike could have a ABS off/TC on option.
Right, but if you've already engineered the ABS (very popular option, save the luddites), it makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER to engineer a completely separate TC system to sell the three bikes that will opt not to have ABS but want TC.
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The Kawi ZX 14R comes in ABS and non ABS versions. All versions have TC. The ABS options is $1k

They market what they think they can sell.

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TC piggybacks on ABS. can't have TC without ABS.
I have TC and QS with no ABS, so obviously you can. One word... bazzaz. It was $600 instead of thousands from the factory.
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