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post #51 of 71 Old 01-07-2013, 09:47 AM
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I think the hardest thing in racing is getting enough money to pay for all the shit you have to pay for!! The bike mods, tires, gas bills, entry fees, health insurance premiums if you crash, time off from work for Friday practices, Monday recovery time and lodging and food!! Can I get an "amen?!"
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I have been off of the track for a short while, but when I attended track days on a regular basis?

Keeping the chin up, and gaining as much vision as far down the track as possible helped a lot...

Reference points seem to be alright to find, but also constantly change as the speed increases...

My biggest hurdle was passing... Especially in the heat of it. Keeping my own markers, and my eyes on where I wanted to be... And not so much on where the other guy was seemd like a challenge.
Passing was for sure my most difficult challenge ...
Trusting the other guys to be steady...
To try and predict where they were headed, and/or the speed that they would carry in and out of the turns...
Trying to manage my lines... Points.. And speed... All the while trying to figure out when/where to make a move and stick to it...

Yep... For me... It was/is passing.... I look forward to more track time and more practice with it as well...
Passing! Good points. Passing is a super hard skill to master, so how do you do it? How do some people effortlessly pick a line around another racer while others seem to struggle and get stuck behind an obviously slower rider?

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I think the hardest thing in racing is getting enough money to pay for all the shit you have to pay for!! The bike mods, tires, gas bills, entry fees, health insurance premiums if you crash, time off from work for Friday practices, Monday recovery time and lodging and food!! Can I get an "amen?!"
Amen! But it's soooooooo worth it

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Passing I am way way way to considerate. Fact is I have yet to see a fully sponsored rider doing track days. All of us have to go back to making the doughnuts on Monday.

Second is body position I tend to muscle the bike to make it do what I want.

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With my very limited track experience...(1 track weekend).. keeping my eyes up and finding a smooth line. I know the speed and faster lap times with come with more experience.
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Throttle control on exit (I blame the dirt riding for that) and heavy braking for corners, like when speeds are well in the triple digits and you need to drop 30-40mph for a corner. I always start too early (which is better than too late) and have a hard time deciding when enough is enough.

Getting that balance: start just late enough and finish braking smoothly as front tire stress is rising in the turn. I am finding it's a good place to put a nail in the coffin for a pass since anyone with a 1k can pin it in the straights.

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Few things I really want to focus on this year:

eyes up/looking way through the corner,
setting up body position earlier to give me more time on marks,
being smooth/relaxed on the controls,
working past someone rather than staying behind them and loosing pace, stay close and push when I'm getting a tow rather than drifting back.
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I think complacency is my biggest issue. I can get in a rut and treat every turn like they are the same. Brake, lean, throttle...

this is clearly not how things should be. Some turns are best handled with early breaking, others with deep trail braking, ect. So I would say that I would like to work on figuring out HOW a turn should be handled best and then executing it.
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Few things I really want to focus on this year:

eyes up/looking way through the corner,
setting up body position earlier to give me more time on marks,
being smooth/relaxed on the controls,
working past someone rather than staying behind them and loosing pace, stay close and push when I'm getting a tow rather than drifting back.
All great things to work on and each technique will kind of help the other techniques improve. For example, if you are able to keep your eyes up and looking through the corner you will be smoother and more relaxed on the controls and you will be able to pass riders much easier because you will have more time. Feeling like you have more time and space gives you the confidence to pass, carry more speed into turns, roll on the gas harder etc...

Visual skills are so important to the improvement of other techniques, it's almost as if you could just work on improving your visual skills and everything else sorts itself out

Besides looking further ahead and through the corner, what other "visual improvements" can you work on?

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Re: Hardest track technique to master?

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Man I understand completely....when I crash it's like I take taking 2 steps back in my riding development & seems to take forever to 'get over it'.
Last one was a right turn crash while trail braking.....I still suck at right handers & cringe/tense up if the bike moves around at all.
My 2nd/3rd trackday, 2nd day ended with blizzard conditions in the middle of the arizona desert the 2nd week of april last year. I rode in the rain all morning, then a full session with snow coming down and my visor icing up on the straights....can hardly consider that a "track day", but I actually learned more about throttle control that day than I ever could have in the dry....

Regardless, i went back to the same track a month later and lowsided. I was pushing really hard, as I had since my track day. 10 minutes in to the 2nd session of the day I lapped everyone in c group and lowsided on the most difficult corner on the track. Hammered a 929 1mm too small clip on onto my girl and went right back out. My confidence was definitely shattered the rest of the day. But that ended with that day.

Next track day on a different track, my confidence was right back to where it was pre wreck, and my skills improved enough to get promoted to b class during the second session.

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Keeping your head down people and I do it you get tired start popping up keep it down
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