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post #1 of 12 Old 10-03-2019, 07:02 PM Thread Starter
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Hi Everyone,

I recently picked up an 2019 Honda CBR1000RR SP. It has a solo seat cowl but I'm looking to install rear passenger seat on it. Why in the world you may ask? I wanted to strap a tail bag on the back so it doesn't scratch the plastic fairing. I feel that it's much more secured with the rear seat properly hooked into the subframe than just a light weight solo cowl plastic holding by a single locking hook.

Could someone share some photos of your seat hook/locking mechanism so I'll know what parts to buy? Thanks in advance!
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post #2 of 12 Old 10-03-2019, 08:26 PM
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I have a new seat if interested pm me

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post #3 of 12 Old 10-03-2019, 08:31 PM
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post #4 of 12 Old 10-04-2019, 01:37 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry about the title guys. I meant 2017-2019 Rear Seat but it was probably taken from the saved title I previously posted.

I already looked at the diagram but it's not clear to me if #4 and #8 is required or where do #14 bolt go into?
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post #5 of 12 Old 10-04-2019, 01:53 PM
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Im pretty sure on the SP and SP2 sub frame is not design to support pillion weight...

or it could be one of them Honda marketing crap

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That's what it actually said in the user manual as well but I was thinking in term of liability due to not having the rear passenger pegs, seats, and the semi-active suspension. I don't think Honda would have different subframe for the "same" bike since it's not cost effective.
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That's what it actually said in the user manual as well but I was thinking in term of liability due to not having the rear passenger pegs, seats, and the semi-active suspension. I don't think Honda would have different subframe for the "same" bike since it's not cost effective.
Just had a quick look they do have different part number but not sure if its just for the colour difference.

you are probably right on it tho there is almost no weight difference between the standard and SP despite the titanium tank and lithium battery, also the frame shape and cut out looks exactly the same.

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post #8 of 12 Old 10-04-2019, 08:41 PM
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I already looked at the diagram but it's not clear to me if #4 and #8 is required or where do #14 bolt go into?
#4 and #8 are required for the lock. #4 holds the flattened sides of the lock so the whole mechanism can't spin, and #8 is the correctly sized washer.

#11 and #14 are the passenger hand-hold for the rear seat, won't be needed in your case. I believe #14 goes into the bottom of the rear seat. I'm betting @child_of_fire would sell you the seat for much less than you could get a new one.
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post #9 of 12 Old 10-05-2019, 09:36 AM
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If previous pillion setups are any indication, the passenger grab strap #11 gets bolted down by the bolts #14 onto the subframe and then just slips over the pillion when installed. At least that is how it is on the previous CBR1000RR and the CBR600RR. When you remove the pillion seat, the strap stays connected to the bike. You can also remove the strap completely and ride a pillion without the strap.

OP, I think all you will need for your purpose is just the pillion seat without the strap and bolts.
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post #10 of 12 Old 10-07-2019, 11:30 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys. If possible, please snap a photo of your seat off so I can better visualize.

I think I'll get the straps too. It's easier to move the bike with straps than to grab onto the tail cowl to move the back and forth.
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