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post #1 of 28 Old 09-24-2015, 09:37 AM Thread Starter
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How to align rear wheel / chain using only a rear stand

Chain Alignment - TOP TIP - advice from a professional

Is my rear tire / rear wheel straight? How do I know my chain is aligned?

Start with the factory marks and adjust evenly on both sides. Only older bikes have useless frame markers, according to my mechanic. Newer ('04 and later) are pretty good.

Then you use the chain as your straight edge. (Your chain and sprockets need to be in good condition.) I attached a visual aid because as easy as the concept is to grasp, the actual application of the principles as they translate to the adjustment can be confusing, at least to me. I apologize for the extremely crude graphics but I don't have any real photo editing software at the moment.

Also here is a video I did about it:

It could be edited down but still it's only a few minutes. The video was done before the new chain and rotors.

So the principle is, the chain is your guide because it's under tension. (Medium tension is good when doing this, not too tight.) If your rear wheel is cocked to one side or the other, the chain will ride tight against that side of the rear sprocket. Wheel is adjusted to far on a right angle? Chain will be tight against the right side of the sprocket. Wheel is facing left? Chain will be tight against the left. Freewheel the rear tire in forward and reverse directions, and check top and bottom.

When the wheel is aligned, the chain rides in the middle of the sprocket. You will be able to push it a little bit either way after spinning the tire. I confirmed this at my local bike shop, where he has a metal cone alignment tool on a slide bar. And when riding my CBR, it tracks perfectly straight with no pull to either side.

Recently I replaced rotors, pads and chain and tires.
I went with a DID 530 ZVM-X chain. If you want top of the line, it costs. The DID chain that came up first on my internet searches was a VX, good but not best. The ZVM runs about $220 w/tax.

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First off the hash marks on the swingarm while not perfect are still close enough to get the job done without any ill effects whatsoever.

Second you should look into a 520 conversion kit the next time you do chain and sprockets they are way cheaper than 530 kits will save you 3-4lbs of rotational mass to reduce gyroscopic precession

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Either a chain alignment tool or a straight edge against the sprocket to visually align the chain.
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First off the hash marks on the swingarm while not perfect are still close enough to get the job done without any ill effects whatsoever.

Second you should look into a 520 conversion kit the next time you do chain and sprockets they are way cheaper than 530 kits will save you 3-4lbs of rotational mass to reduce gyroscopic precession

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Are there any company who make a 520 front sprocket with the rubbers around it like the 530 OEM sproket

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I've never seen one, but why in the world would you ever be concerned with damping rubbers on the countershaft sprocket? I noticed you don't run a stock exhaust
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I've never seen one, but why in the world would you ever be concerned with damping rubbers on the countershaft sprocket? I noticed you don't run a stock exhaust
I have read that it vibrates without the rubbers on the front sprocket. I have never rode a bike with a 520 conversion. But I just did my chain and sprockets when I put my CZ wheels on in 2013. So maybe next summer I will invest in a 520 conversion and loose some more rotating weight.

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Additional vibrations are negligible at best. Your race type exhaust report probably makes more vibes felt through the chassis than the chain connecting with the CS sprocket.

Everybody loves the 520 conversion. The only people to ever be unsatisfied with a 520 kit are the ones that got conned into buying a cheap kit. If you buy quality parts like I mention in my article above you will never regret your purchase.
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First off the hash marks on the swingarm while not perfect are still close enough to get the job done without any ill effects whatsoever.

Second you should look into a 520 conversion kit the next time you do chain and sprockets they are way cheaper than 530 kits will save you 3-4lbs of rotational mass to reduce gyroscopic precession

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I'll have to dig it up but I have the actual weight differences of the 530 to 520.


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I'll have to dig it up but I have the actual weight differences of the 530 to 520.


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That would actually depend on the brand of chain kit you replace the OEM 530 with. If you use the higher end DID ERV3 or ZVM-X which weighs .3 of a lb more than the ERV3 along with Alloy sprockets then I would say being in the ballpark of 3-4lbs is close enough for what most people would be considering.
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I plan on reading the rest of the article as I am sure there is some good information in there, but I stopped at the author's 4th paragraph:

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"Stock sprocket sizes are 16/41 (on 2004-2007 US spec bikes)..."
Aren't they 16/42? Made me question reading the rest
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