Actually I believe you did miss the point made in the post.
Just wondering what wheel horsepower number where you expecting from an engine openly rated by Honda at 189bhp at the crank?
You missed the point of the US spec bike being software nerfed versus the Euro bikes, and that by simply applying the Euro tune to the US bike the measured power increased by 11% and the power curve went from being capped and limited to a smooth run all the way to red line.
Nothing was changed internally - the only change was ignition, fuel and ETV maps.
Stock US replaced by stock Euro, no tuning at all.
I didn't miss the point of the post, i get what you are sharing. you are simply showing how much the US version sucks because Honda has de-tuned it. My point is, this is there flag ship bike, the one that is suppose to be all the talk, you shouldn't have to do anything to it. the build you are doing is how the bike should have shown up at the dealer.
I understand what you are saying to a certain extent. Did Honda put a big dollar sign on a bike that is their flagship model and produced a bike down on HP, very much so. Have they done this the last decade or longer, yes. So in my opinion, no surprise here. Iíve owned just about every version Honda has produced since the 1998 CBR. Which is the only one I owned that never saw the track. If you have bought a Honda in the last 10 years, you purchased because you are brand loyal, liked the looks, Honda stability or Honda reliability. If you wanted a big number on a piece of paper or wanted to be the fastest guy in a straight line, you buy a Kawi or BMW.
I can tell you the difference between my 2012, 2017 SP1 and this 2017 SP2 is huge. My custom tune with air filter and full exhaust on a load cell Dyno was only 155hp. Put that same bike the same day on a Dynojet Dyno, itís 172hp-175hp. A 2016 Kawi on the same Dyno mine was run on produced 171. Iím not surprised nor phased by this. Power curve, where it is delivered in the power band and how the bike delivers that power to the pavement is so much more important to me. This bikes midrange has other bikes having to play catch up.
The point is this, at my level of racing, which is nothing near WSBK or MotoA, the bikes HP isnít the factor. Iíve destroyed BMWís, Yamaha R1ís, Kawasakiís etc at the track and on the streets through the twisties. The other guys riding these bikes are also racers and very capable riders and some with better skill than myself. If I was beat at a track, itís because of riding skill differences not because I was down 15-20hp. Iíve been beat by a lot of people that have had significantly older bikes with less HP. Rider makes a big difference in the equation.
At the higher levels, yes, you are screwed. But for the majority of us mere mortals, the bike is a great bike and more than enough to be a formidable track weapon. Subtle changes made a huge difference in this bike. Honda has always been known to be on the arrogant side. They have Marquez, I truly donít think they are losing one ounce of sleep about what the sell to us. Lol. Plus, we have made calls to American Honda. They donít care. Yes, ití would have been nice to have a bike that performs like this one does but has top end on par with the bmw and Kawi. But it doesnít, and I have flogged the shit out of this bike and itís awesome! You really wouldnít be disappointed in having this bike or even the base model for that matter. Regardless of the HP.
Just my opinion.
I get what you are saying and cant argue any of your points. I'm sure it is a great bike, left alone. but as rc has found, the slightest moding and you run into a ton of trouble. honda has always made great bikes, for the people that are going to use them the most, normal people. they aren't great race bikes, they don't make the most power. but they are usually the lightest and best handling, and they are an awesome street bike. you don't have to sell me on honda, that's all i ride. (except for that 4 month period i rode a bmw, but we wont talk about that lol)
i guess what bugs me the most, and everyone else..... Honda has all the tech, all the knowledge, all the know how, and make a kick ass GP machine. but when are we going to see that knowledge and tech in the street bikes. every other manufacturer has been doing it for years, and finally in 2017 we finally see something... but its like they half ass'd it and didn't really put much thought into what they were doing. or is it the opposite, made it it to complicated and complex for street bikes. either way, it still leaves the majority party here scratching are heads like C'mon!!
sorry to rant in your build thread RC. please carry on. I love seeing all your fancy bits and reading of the progress your making.