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It must be a ton of fun to ride these amazing bikes and tracks us mere mortals could only dream to ride but MAN most of these guys don't say too much about what the bikes are actually like to ride and they all kind of regurgitate the same list of specs without answering what does this model do better than others......

Sure it has Stylema calipers from Brembo, Ducati and Aprilia have that.

The Ohlins fork is relatively new tech as it employs the FKR pressurized system on the compression side which helps a ton in the braking phase during track use but the new R1M and last year's Ducati V4R have those forks - and they are GREAT as I have FKR inserts on several bikes and I own a V4R.

Motorcycle News said the bike is to come with the third version (SP3) Pirelli Daiblo Supercorsa tires - no one else has mentioned the SPV3 tire yet - this is important as the SPV2 came out in 2012 on the Ducati Panigale and the SPV3 was updated for the Ducati V4 - both are GREAT tires but the third version of the tire is good enough to actually race at the expert club level.

GP One was the first to mention the SP bike came with a lithium-ion battery and I confirmed that here --> https://hondanews.eu/gb/en/motorcycles/media/pressreleases/196428/2020-honda-cbr1000rr-r-fireblade-sp and they said the bike feels like an extreme Fireblade but that doesn't explain anything to those who don't have a Fireblade, lol

44 Teeth said "it is quick, it is SUPER quick" and the other standout feature is "super planted....the best front end in the business by far...and ABS intervention is seamless...the fastest 600 I have ever ridden and I mean that in the nicest possible way...not only does it feel like an Aprilia (RSV4) with that front end confidence but it steers quicker, turns quicker, is WAY more agile)" --> Now THIS is useful info!

No one has mentioned where the rider puts the key! The bike has a push button switch to turn on the ignition and 44 Teeth showed the switch has a twist off feature to turn the ignition off but when you ride on track do you take the key with you? I lost a key to my van one time at Deals Gap because it somehow came out of my Dainese full suit while I was riding!

I would like to know if the seat is grippy.

44 Teeth said the throttle is twitchy....can that be changed? I think the Aprilia in Race mode has one of the best throttles in the business but in Sport mode I am not a fan. Kawasaki ZX-10R has a very smooth throttle but the R1/M throttle is twitchy and when leaned over the initial pick up from closed throttle upsets the chassis.

GP One said "The fuel tank is a little too large and in braking, it is difficult to squeeze it with your legs. It needs to be slightly more hollowed out so as to anchor better with your knees."

I will update this space when I know more or find reviews that answer these and other questions.

I ordered mine and my dealer said hopefully April but I don't expect it before June....
 

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If you are in the US, your dealer was being less that honest - he has been told by Honda it will not be here before July, so not even sure why he offered the April BS.
 

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@RC45, agreed it is widely known that the new bike is to be available in June of this year but this dealer said hopefully April as they are a premiere Honda dealer, they ordered 3 of them and Honda North America is just down the road. Makes little difference to me but that is what they said. I know I am among the first to have even ordered the bike back in November.
 

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But their being a premiere (I am sure they mean Power House) dealer wont allow them to get the bike any earlier than its ship and delivery date :)

Good luck, hopefully you are the #1 name on the list as there is little to no chance they get a second or third unless another Power House dealer already gave them their place on the list.
 

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GP One was the first to mention the SP bike came with a lithium-ion battery and I confirmed that here --> https://hondanews.eu/gb/en/motorcycles/media/pressreleases/196428/2020-honda-cbr1000rr-r-fireblade-sp
Honda started using lithium-ion batteries on 2017 SP models

Honda UK released these specs the day the bike was unveiled
Battery Capacity (VAh) 12-2Li-ion
https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/super-sport/cbr1000rr-r-fireblade-sp/specifications-and-price.html#
 

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Honda started using lithium-ion batteries on 2017 SP models

@Bevo - please don't spoil the illusion Honda is creating - its like Honda don't acknowledge our SC77s even existed LOL
 

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@Bevo, agreed that did use one of the SP but it was not clear they would continue using them. Aprilia and Ducati are using them but I don't think the R1/M, ZX-10R/R or any others are. Thanks for the link, I didn't see that one yet.
 

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Same lithium on the CRF450L. Sorry corrected 450L is a A51 Li $500+ list. SP2 is a L61 Li $300+ list
 

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@SP2RR - thanks for the detailed info on the battery. I'm glad the new SP comes with one. Too bad they didn't do the titanium gas tank on this new bike as well! :)

So they are saying 443 lbs fully-fueled and ready to ride which happens to be the same weight as the 2015 R1M.

I always optimize my bikes and generally can knock off 25-30 lbs on a Japanese bike.

Can't wait to see how this one works out! Should be pretty easy to loose 20 lbs with wheels, exhaust, chain and sprockets, mirrors, license plate holder and emissions farkle!

Bike Social put up the most thorough review I have found so far --> https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/honda/honda-cbr1000rr-r-fireblade-sp-2020-review-price-spec
 

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@Bevo, most of the 18 bikes I currently own are used on track so YES I will upgrade.

The oem Akrapovic end can looks and sounds great (basically the same as the Aprilia Factory 1100 end can) BUT that end can is HEAVY and the Akrapovic EVO system will be at least 6 lbs lighter and allow for more power over stock.

I do see a trend happening where manufacturers are going to start making street bikes with nice-looking end cans that are lightweight and basically make it impossible to upgrade but for now I plan to make changes to improve the bike like I do to all my bikes :)
 

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"I'm actually fisting the intake" :ROFLMAO:
 

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Didn't expect the lithium battery, but that's good to hear. One less upgrade to do. Now about those rubber brake lines...

My dealership told me "We are slated to get one of only 48 coming into the United States. We do not have a deposit on it yet. We anticipate delivery in June/July." (I think it's 47, not 48) and "Also, we just got a tentative ship date of July 17, 2020. I will keep you posted if that changes to a closer date."

I don't think your dealership was being honest about the date either. They may have ordered 3, but I don't think they'll get them, and if you aren't the first to put a deposit there and really want one -- I would consider putting a deposit with another powerhouse dealership.

My local dealer got a deposit from me before I learned about powerhouse dealers and said they would order one. I put a second deposit with another powerhouse dealer that said nobody had put a hold on the one they were allocated yet. Worst case my local dealer gets one, and I lose the deposit.
 

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Didn't expect the lithium battery, but that's good to hear. One less upgrade to do. Now about those rubber brake lines...

My dealership told me "We are slated to get one of only 48 coming into the United States. We do not have a deposit on it yet. We anticipate delivery in June/July." (I think it's 47, not 48) and "Also, we just got a tentative ship date of July 17, 2020. I will keep you posted if that changes to a closer date."

I don't think your dealership was being honest about the date either. They may have ordered 3, but I don't think they'll get them, and if you aren't the first to put a deposit there and really want one -- I would consider putting a deposit with another powerhouse dealership.

My local dealer got a deposit from me before I learned about powerhouse dealers and said they would order one. I put a second deposit with another powerhouse dealer that said nobody had put a hold on the one they were allocated yet. Worst case my local dealer gets one, and I lose the deposit.
If your local dealer can't provide proof that their order has been accepted I'd ask for that deposit to be refunded.
 

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If your local dealer can't provide proof that their order has been accepted I'd ask for that deposit to be refunded.
I don't know how these things work. I put the deposit a week ago and he said he would order it. Would Honda have accepted/denied the order already? Or would they wait until closer to ship date? The fact that the first powerhouse dealer I contacted days later said theirs was still available makes me think some of these are still unsold and maybe Honda won't accept/deny orders until all are spoken for...
 

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I don't know how these things work. I put the deposit a week ago and he said he would order it. Would Honda have accepted/denied the order already? Or would they wait until closer to ship date? The fact that the first powerhouse dealer I contacted days later said theirs was still available makes me think some of these are still unsold and maybe Honda won't accept/deny orders until all are spoken for...
The dealer should know if the order has been accepted. Just ask them. They're potentially making money off of you. It's called customer service. If they can't provide proof then ask for your deposit to be refunded. The purpose of a deposit is to hold a bike for you. If they don't have a bike to hold, then they can't legally hold your deposit.
 

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The dealer should know if the order has been accepted. Just ask them. They're potentially making money off of you. It's called customer service. If they can't provide proof then ask for your deposit to be refunded. The purpose of a deposit is to hold a bike for you. If they don't have a bike to hold, then they can't legally hold your deposit.
This man speaks the truth.
 

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I don't know how these things work. I put the deposit a week ago and he said he would order it. Would Honda have accepted/denied the order already? Or would they wait until closer to ship date? The fact that the first powerhouse dealer I contacted days later said theirs was still available makes me think some of these are still unsold and maybe Honda won't accept/deny orders until all are spoken for...
They would have to had placed the actual order in the past, week of the Honda Dealership conference in Hawaii - and only if they placed the actual order and had it accepted and acknowledged, would they be charged a $1000 cancellation fee by Honda in the event they refuse delivery.

IOW, if they have not actually placed the order then there is no reason why they should keep your deposit at all.
 
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