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Just ordered a set, hoping they are what I’m looking for. They are the 2022 ones EU.
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Thx for the eBay share, just ordered a set for my 2021 SC82.
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Got my set already, took some pics today of the stock USA vs. Euro stacks....surprising some are seeing 10+ hp from this mod but this is a cheap and easy mod!
This is stock USA on my race bike with BMC filter
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Some comparison pics from different angles...
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This is stock USA on my race bike with BMC filter
Some comparison pics from different angles...
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I ordered the part numbers I listed above from Ten Kate, which is in Europe. Hopefully that gets me the slash cut variable height stacks. I got the non-slash version, shown above on the race bike.
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Hello to share my Honda resume (And its to establish my background)starts in 1993 600F2 / Almighty 900RR both rwb! Geez I feel I certainly did my part to help Hondas strip joint money. 2000 /01 929/ Erion 929s 03 600RR 041000RR 09 REP1000RR 2017 1000RR SP2s #16 & #85 2021 1000RRR SP. theres other manufacturers sprinkled in as samples 98 ZX9R 99 R1 02 GSXR 1K 2013 BMW HP4. My question is your bike is a 2021? Or the newer 2022 30th Ann? The head work in the 2022 is designed and optimized for the 2022 slash cut oval EU venturis. The EU 2021 venturis are oval and not as tall as stock and obviously larger 50mm 51mm inlet size(supposed to be 52mm) anyhow I would be interested to know if you see or get improvement with the 2022 slashcut EU venturis and Im not sure if you are installing them on the 2021. I should have my 30th this coming week so I did buy the 2022 EU Lower Airbox and Venturis. So I can get the Air right. I noticed a better power pickup and power up top with the foam removed and EU venturis on the 2021. I did a lot f the drivability testing tune with MCU. They had not done much with the ETVs except up high from the race teams.
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@CapnhuggyFace23 I have a 2021 SC82 race bike with full HRC electronics and I put the euro spec variable height stacks on that bike. I ALSO have a 2022 SC82 street bike and I just received the slash cut stacks a couple of days ago. I have not installed them yet. So you are saying the lower airbox is different in Europe as well huh? It seems like you are saying the 2022 slash cut stacks are 1 mm larger and require the Euro-spec lower airbox? Do you have a part number on that?
I was going to buy the lower airbox but I decided against it.
In my opinion the velocity stacks were the main reason the bike lost so much power ie very narrow stack and foam.
The lower airbox 22 is still available from Simon. How much could it make a difference because the 20 and 21 airbox top fits the new 22 lower per Simon. Keep in mind the 22 US velocity stacks are different from the 22 euro ones. I am just trying to extract what I can get on the cheap. Now if Honda gave us 14.2 compression like the V4R we could get another 6-8hp.
Another question why did you do so much work with MCU for drivability if you could of slapped on a Rapid Bike to smooth everything out. I do not see any recent tunes on MCU site regarding stacks.
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I was told by Rapid Bike that the Moto America bikes run the tune from MCU with a Rapid Bike and are finally tuned by LWS Tuning & KWS Motor Sports. I agree that the bike needs a tune to remove the restriction in the upper rpm ie no load etv. Nevertheless, I would prefer that I would have control on what gets changed for example the Woolrich software doe that unfortunately not available for the US ecu. I do not have to run back and forth and keep paying for sprockets or tire change sizes. The ignition timing is essential in the tune which I believe really wakes up the bike in the lower and midrange which it did on my other Hondas The Rapid Bike fueling curve below. See attached for 20 ie euro the other one is what I installed for the US bike which Rapid Bike recommended. With the Rapid Bike it tunes to 13.1 AFR or whatever I choose. Feel free to educate me. I know a lot of people are very happy with a standard flash but I always what that extra.
In my opinion the velocity stacks were the main reason the bike lost so much power ie very narrow stack and foam.
The lower airbox 22 is still available from Simon. How much could it make a difference because the 20 and 21 airbox top fits the new 22 lower per Simon. Keep in mind the 22 US velocity stacks are different from the 22 euro ones. I am just trying to extract what I can get on the cheap. Now if Honda gave us 14.2 compression like the V4R we could get another 6-8hp.
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Another question why did you do so much work with MCU for drivability if you could of slapped on a Rapid Bike to smooth everything out. I do not see any recent tunes on MCU site regarding stacks.
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I was told by Rapid Bike that the Moto America bikes run the tune from MCU with a Rapid Bike and are finally tuned by LWS Tuning & KWS Motor Sports. I agree that the bike needs a tune to remove the restriction in the upper rpm ie no load etv. Nevertheless, I would prefer that I would have control on what gets changed for example the Woolrich software doe that unfortunately not available for the US ecu. I do not have to run back and forth and keep paying for sprockets or tire change sizes. The ignition timing is essential in the tune which I believe really wakes up the bike in the lower and midrange which it did on my other Hondas The Rapid Bike fueling curve below. See attached for 20 ie euro the other one is what I installed for the US bike which Rapid Bike recommended. With the Rapid Bike it tunes to 13.1 AFR or whatever I choose. Feel free to educate me. I know a lot of people are very happy with a standard flash but I always what that extra.
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I bought the 2023 EU spec air box and velocity stacks. My bike is a 2021 US version. The 2023 EU velocity stacks are clearly very different. The changes in the 2023 EU air box are super minor. In the pics I attached the 2021 US airbox is the one with intake foam and the map sensor attached to it still.
I'm looking forward to seeing what the bike can do on the dyno. The dyno I'll be using is typically very low. A V4 Panigale with exhaust and tune made 185hp. So I figure anything around there is huge. Bike will be running pump gas, has a full akro system, 15t/45t gearing, sprint air filter, Bren tune stage 2 tune, carbonin air intake and the air box and velocity stacks I mentioned above. Waiting on the I2M ABS delete module to arrive and a rear brake line. Then it's dyno time.
I'm looking forward to seeing what the bike can do on the dyno. The dyno I'll be using is typically very low. A V4 Panigale with exhaust and tune made 185hp. So I figure anything around there is huge. Bike will be running pump gas, has a full akro system, 15t/45t gearing, sprint air filter, Bren tune stage 2 tune, carbonin air intake and the air box and velocity stacks I mentioned above. Waiting on the I2M ABS delete module to arrive and a rear brake line. Then it's dyno time.
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I was told by Rapid Bike that the Moto America bikes run the tune from MCU with a Rapid Bike and are finally tuned by LWS Tuning & KWS Motor Sports. I agree that the bike needs a tune to remove the restriction in the upper rpm ie no load etv. Nevertheless, I would prefer that I would have control on what gets changed for example the Woolrich software doe that unfortunately not available for the US ecu. I do not have to run back and forth and keep paying for sprockets or tire change sizes. The ignition timing is essential in the tune which I believe really wakes up the bike in the lower and midrange which it did on my other Hondas The Rapid Bike fueling curve below. See attached for 20 ie euro the other one is what I installed for the US bike which Rapid Bike recommended. With the Rapid Bike it tunes to 13.1 AFR or whatever I choose. Feel free to educate me. I know a lot of people are very happy with a standard flash but I always what that extra.
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this was true 2 years ago when MCU was the only one that cracked the ecu to delete the restrictions. But all the MotoAmerica Hondas using the HRC kit ecu last year and on. MCU is basicaly the eu map in the USA bikes I think. But either way there isn’t much available unless u go HRC. Good luck.
Brentune wasn’t bad, atleast they answered questions and made a tune for your mods/gearing/etc. MCU has been mia for over a year and hasn’t uploaded newer tunes much.
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this was true 2 years ago when MCU was the only one that cracked the ecu to delete the restrictions. But all the MotoAmerica Hondas using the HRC kit ecu last year and on. MCU is basicaly the eu map in the USA bikes I think. But either way there isn’t much available unless u go HRC. Good luck.
Brentune wasn’t bad, atleast they answered questions and made a tune for your mods/gearing/etc. MCU has been mia for over a year and hasn’t uploaded newer tunes much.
MCU is not basically using the EU map. See his website. What is the point of a HRC Ecu when you cannot use it on the street. I agree with you that MCU customer service is laxed and Brentune is not.
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@VFR750F3 The EPA and CARB are why kit ecus are made so race teams can get the most from each platform on the race track and ONLY the race track. Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha all make them but none of them want to be complicit in the circumvention of emission requirements that is why lights, horns, etc are removed from the requisite wiring harness. Think about what happened to Big Tabacco or many of the pharmaceutical companies. Local and state governments LOVE to go after companies and fine them to the moon!
The Honda kit ecu is quite good and fully tunable allowing for the full potential of the SC82 but it does eliminate lights, horn, turn signals, ABS and the electronic suspension - basically anything that makes the bike street-able.
Countries like France get even less performance from bikes sold for street use. In the United States there is a mandate stating a motorcycle used on the streets of this country may not exceed 80 db at 50% of max horsepower, not rpm. Despite the SC82 motor having a claimed max rpm of 14,500 and producing 214 hp in Europe, the model sold in the United States is limited to 186 hp (crank), however it still revs to 14,500. What Honda does to meet the EPA mandate is electronically limit the throttle bodies at a rpm lower than max that will allow the bike when tested to not exceed the 80 db limit, with the 2021-2022 SC82 bike it happens to be 6,600 rpm.
I hope this helps make sense of the reasoning why manufacturers limit their bikes. It's not their fault at all, blame the EPA, blame CARB.
Some interesting articles -->
1.) Motorcycles Pollute More Than SUVs
2.) Motorcycles Emit 'Disproportionately High' Amounts Of Air Pollutants
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See Cycle World dyno of the 2021 bike -->
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The Honda kit ecu is quite good and fully tunable allowing for the full potential of the SC82 but it does eliminate lights, horn, turn signals, ABS and the electronic suspension - basically anything that makes the bike street-able.
Countries like France get even less performance from bikes sold for street use. In the United States there is a mandate stating a motorcycle used on the streets of this country may not exceed 80 db at 50% of max horsepower, not rpm. Despite the SC82 motor having a claimed max rpm of 14,500 and producing 214 hp in Europe, the model sold in the United States is limited to 186 hp (crank), however it still revs to 14,500. What Honda does to meet the EPA mandate is electronically limit the throttle bodies at a rpm lower than max that will allow the bike when tested to not exceed the 80 db limit, with the 2021-2022 SC82 bike it happens to be 6,600 rpm.
I hope this helps make sense of the reasoning why manufacturers limit their bikes. It's not their fault at all, blame the EPA, blame CARB.
Some interesting articles -->
1.) Motorcycles Pollute More Than SUVs
2.) Motorcycles Emit 'Disproportionately High' Amounts Of Air Pollutants
See Cycle World dyno of the 2021 bike -->
literally everyone of MCU’s tunes say EU stage 1 and then US compatible at the bottom. Either way throw a rapid bike on with what ever tune to clean up/fine tune the afr. Or better yet a rapid bike with the mytune wideband sensor it’ll adjust afr instantly for u. For street that’s the way I’d goMCU is not basically using the EU map. See his website. What is the point of a HRC Ecu when you cannot use it on the street. I agree with you that MCU customer service is laxed and Brentune is not.
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