These have got to bre the worst gloves evr made. I bought the first pair last month and did 500 miles on them until the left glove tore in the middle index finger. So I exchange them Thursday for a new pair of the same and wouldn't you know it today as soon as I put them on and you know intwined my fingers and strecth them outward(as if i was cracking my knuckles) and the friggin right and ripped in the same place as the last pair. I mean for $119 you igure these would last through at least 5 highsides. I could just imagine how they would hold up in a crash. Anyone else have any experince with alpinestar