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When my stock pads get hot wow do they fade. What brake pads do you guys recommend running on the track?

I know LDH recommended sbs Dual Carbon and will probably end up going this route. Was hoping to find some local as I have a track day tomorrow.
 

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When my stock pads get hot wow do they fade. What brake pads do you guys recommend running on the track?

I know LDH recommended sbs Dual Carbon and will probably end up going this route. Was hoping to find some local as I have a track day tomorrow.
Vesrah SRJLs
 

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Galfer 1375 compound are pretty good.

Quite a bit cheaper than the Vesrahs
 

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What level rider are you? If you are a Novice to mid intermediate, don't really worry too much about it. You want to be focused more on lines and less on speed.

Pick something up to get you by and worry about it later.
 

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I cant see why your stock system is fading. I use stock pads and never had fade and Im the latest braker I know. I use the brick wall braking technique if you know what I mean.
Give us some more info, what year bike, have you ever changed fluid.
Im thinking although you dont have air in the system you might have old fluid that is water saturated which will boil at lower temp.
 

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When my stock pads get hot wow do they fade. What brake pads do you guys recommend running on the track?

I know LDH recommended sbs Dual Carbon and will probably end up going this route. Was hoping to find some local as I have a track day tomorrow.

Let me tell ya something else about SBS Dual Carbons... They don't work in really wet conditions in fact they disintegrate. I mean literally...

I love them in the dry as they are some of the most consistently performing pads I have ever used (once they are up to temp) with like zero brake fade even if they don't have a really good initial bite, but I had a set just fall apart on me after about 6 sessions in the pouring rain. They turned to a mushy graphite like paste and I wore through them all the way to the metal backing plate.

As an emergency I went through my spare parts bin and installed some sort of Galfer pads that Bill Staab gave me like 4 years ago into the bike just to get me through and haven't bothered to change them out yet as they are getting the job done, but I will probably go back to Vesrah SJRL's or Carbone Lorraine C55's as I just can't afford the HRC pads anymore...
 

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+1 for Vesrah or Carbone Lorraine.

I am running Carbone Lorraine and they are very smooth and consistant. They don't have the initial bite like the Vesra does though.
 

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vesrah rjl's for the win.

oh, and change your brake fluid for a better one. i and quite a few guys on here are running ATE super blue. 539* dry boiling point and 339* wet boiling point. i hope i didnt butcher those numbers too bad, if i did, im only off by +/- 15*.

i havent ever ran into brake fade, ever. and i love braking hard.

oh, i run both this setup on my track bike and my street bike.
 

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Like Ripperton and someone else said... You've got to change your brake fluid. I race with stock brakes and experience no fade, I'm also on the podium every race.
 

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I use HRC pads as I got given a stack of them by an ex factory racer down this way. On the street I run stock and or a street vesrah compound.
 

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I think he wanted opinions on something that would actually improve the braking performance of the bike...
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I had tons of brake fade with braided lines, but stock fluid and pads. Switching up the pads and fluid made all the difference in the world for me in confidence. I wasnt even that fast when I made that move (not saying im rossi now) I was probably on the brakes too much, but either way it caused fade and that doesn't inspire much confidence for new or experienced riders.

I found the EBC's were OK,better than oem for me, but they hung up a lot when they got warmed up. I really liked the versahs though. :thumbsup:
 

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+1 with Ripperton. I was having some problems early last season with braking feel at the lever and with fade. Turns out all I needed was fresh fluid and a proper bleeding. This was on a stock braking system (calipers, master cyl, OEM fluid and pads) plus SS lines.
 

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Vesrah RJL's here. The SRJL's i hear good things about too but my buddy that uses them said that this past weekend in the rain he didnt like them. To much initial bite he said. plus they are a ton more. go with the RJL's. i also recommend new brake fluid too.
 

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Vesrah SRJLs, worth the money, I couldn't believe how much better and stronger they felt, and I had the SBS Dual Carbons right before these. Track or street it's all good now. And what most everyone else said, change your fluid and if you're not comfortable with bleeding the brakes, get some Goodridge Speedbleeders...a chimp could do it after they're installed, and the lever feels almost as solid as it did stock.
 

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I replaced the front brakes with honda brakes there were 2/3 worn anyway. The brake fade was still there but not as bad. I checked the top of the master cylinder and the cap wasnt very tight. Now the brake fade is all gone.
 

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Let me tell ya something else about SBS Dual Carbons... They don't work in really wet conditions in fact they disintegrate. I mean literally...

I love them in the dry as they are some of the most consistently performing pads I have ever used (once they are up to temp) with like zero brake fade even if they don't have a really good initial bite, but I had a set just fall apart on me after about 6 sessions in the pouring rain. They turned to a mushy graphite like paste and I wore through them all the way to the metal backing plate.

As an emergency I went through my spare parts bin and installed some sort of Galfer pads that Bill Staab gave me like 4 years ago into the bike just to get me through and haven't bothered to change them out yet as they are getting the job done, but I will probably go back to Vesrah SJRL's or Carbone Lorraine C55's as I just can't afford the HRC pads anymore...
I was more than a little nervous after I read this post last week since I had just finished installing the SBS pads on my bike. I was lucky and had a dry track day yesterday and they worked awesome. Good feel, zero fade, and pretty cheap too. I think I'm going to pick up another set of the galfer HHs just in case I run into some wet weather, but the dual carbons worked so well in the dry I think I might stick with them for a while.
 
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