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Hey guys 2017 CBR1000RR standard non-abs, sent out my ECU to be flashed by Danos with the following options

Optimize fuel curves across all gear ( same as a Power Commander)
Optimize ignition curves across all gears (remove RPM & throttle based ignition restrictions)
Disable pair valve
Reset radiator fan turn on/off temperature (205 / 195 )
Disable top speed limiter
Remove throttle plate restrictions
Disable exhaust valve
Disable deceleration fuel cut

I also advised I was getting the quickshifter, graves slip-on exhaust and PAIR mod with block off plates. He said no problem, he would throw a tune on there based on the upgrades and ship it back. As advised, upon receipt, install ECU, run the bike for 5ish minutes then go ahead with the upgrades. After installing exhaust, blockoff plates, removing pair valve and quickshifter I had it dyno'd and was not impressed with the results which read 32 HP behind the Danos website Dyno.

I would love to hear your guys' feedback
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Wow looks like he forgot to flash it, and just sent back your stock ecu!

Let him know, I'm sure he will rectify this.
 

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Hey guys 2017 CBR1000RR standard non-abs, sent out my ECU to be flashed by Danos with the following options

Optimize fuel curves across all gear ( same as a Power Commander)
Optimize ignition curves across all gears (remove RPM & throttle based ignition restrictions)
Disable pair valve
Reset radiator fan turn on/off temperature (205 / 195 )
Disable top speed limiter
Remove throttle plate restrictions
Disable exhaust valve
Disable deceleration fuel cut

I also advised I was getting the quickshifter, graves slip-on exhaust and PAIR mod with block off plates. He said no problem, he would throw a tune on there based on the upgrades and ship it back. As advised, upon receipt, install ECU, run the bike for 5ish minutes then go ahead with the upgrades. After installing exhaust, blockoff plates, removing pair valve and quickshifter I had it dyno'd and was not impressed with the results which read 32 HP behind the Danos website Dyno.

I would love to hear your guys' feedback
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The air fuel mixture all off, runs lean then at higher rpm to rich, looks like it was not flashed, that stock horsepower numbers.
 

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Oouch, something had to of gone wrong with the flash process.. I am assuming you do not have any issues related to trouble codes on the bike? Also a pic of the bike, so we can check out the graves exhaust! ;)
 

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Danos uses Woolich which is a tried, tested, and true ECU flash software package and Danos has an excellent reputation.

I would assume there was either a mistake with your specific ECU or something else is going on.

Contact Danos, I'm sure they will get it sorted quickly.
 

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Hey guys 2017 CBR1000RR standard non-abs, sent out my ECU to be flashed by Danos with the following options

Optimize fuel curves across all gear ( same as a Power Commander)
Optimize ignition curves across all gears (remove RPM & throttle based ignition restrictions)
Disable pair valve
Reset radiator fan turn on/off temperature (205 / 195 )
Disable top speed limiter
Remove throttle plate restrictions
Disable exhaust valve
Disable deceleration fuel cut

I also advised I was getting the quickshifter, graves slip-on exhaust and PAIR mod with block off plates. He said no problem, he would throw a tune on there based on the upgrades and ship it back. As advised, upon receipt, install ECU, run the bike for 5ish minutes then go ahead with the upgrades. After installing exhaust, blockoff plates, removing pair valve and quickshifter I had it dyno'd and was not impressed with the results which read 32 HP behind the Danos website Dyno.

I would love to hear your guys' feedback
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Dyno on an SC77 without flashing out the Front Wheel Speed Sensor will give unpredictable results.
What power mode was the bike in?
Any torque map with rpm or could they not get an RPM signal?

I have seen this happen before where a dyno operator has Woolich software on hand and flashes out the Front Wheel speed Sensor not realizing he/she has just returned the ECU to stock at the same time.

More detail around the dyno setup would be helpful (y)
 

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On these bikes if you don't disable the front wheel speed sensor the ecu goes into a limp mode and as a result the throttle plates don't open to 100% at full throttle.In order to get accurate horsepower reads on a dyno you will need to first disable the front wheel speed sensor which can only be done via flashing the ecu.Unless you have the Woolich Racing hardware to do this or your dyno guy has the hardware you horsepower readings will be low. Thanks Dan
 

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On these bikes if you don't disable the front wheel speed sensor the ecu goes into a limp mode and as a result the throttle plates don't open to 100% at full throttle.In order to get accurate horsepower reads on a dyno you will need to first disable the front wheel speed sensor which can only be done via flashing the ecu.Unless you have the Woolich Racing hardware to do this or your dyno guy has the hardware you horsepower readings will be low. Thanks Dan
WOW, thanks for the reply Dan, I will run this information by my local performance shop that did the Dyno and see about more details here. I am fairly certain he did not disable the front wheel sensor as the bike had the CEL on and had to be cleared when I was picking it up. He had mentioned it was because of the traction control during the dyno.

Oouch, something had to of gone wrong with the flash process.. I am assuming you do not have any issues related to trouble codes on the bike? Also a pic of the bike, so we can check out the graves exhaust! ;)
The CEL was on when I picked up, guy had said it was from the dyno and the front wheel speed sensor which was addressed by RC45 and Danos himself as a potential cause for lack of performance.

and for sure I will post up a pic when I get done with work.


wheel lift...I need to get on mine and see if that will happen after this flash. Did not have anytime last night after picking it up to try and open the throttle more than a little on surface streets

Danos uses Woolich which is a tried, tested, and true ECU flash software package and Danos has an excellent reputation.

I would assume there was either a mistake with your specific ECU or something else is going on.

Contact Dano's, I'm sure they will get it sorted quickly.
I researched the forum a bunch and chose him based on that research and all the positive reviews and referrals.

Initial feedback based on the ride home from the shop which was 6pm traffic on surface streets for about 8 miles, not much of a chance to open it up.

Throttle response felt much improved, acceleration felt the same, although I did not really get a chance to open it up
Engine braking is greatly reduced
Quickshifter = amazing and that autoblip, no words
Graves exhaust sound = instant boner
 

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Throttle response felt much improved, acceleration felt the same, although I did not really get a chance to open it up
Engine braking is greatly reduced
Quickshifter = amazing and that autoblip, no words
Graves exhaust sound = instant boner
Which Graves did you go with? I added the Titanium slip-on 5 minutes after reinstalling the ecu wt Dan’s flash, couldn’t ask for a better sound combo, every time I start the SP up, I’m in a happy place. 35D4ADBC-E38B-42C3-B053-7E8B629A25B0.jpeg
 

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What Preset Mode (Mode 1, Mode 2 or Mode 3) were you in? Or if in User 1 or User 2 what EB (engine braking) level was selected?

The ECU (and Honda Total Control) system is intended to have 3 discrete and discernible levels of Engine Braking available. EB1 beign the most noticeable engine braking and EB3 the least noticeable engine braking.

If you set up User 1 or User 2 with EB1 then EB2 and EB3, do you still noticeable a distinct difference between the EB levels?
Danos explained that the EB setting would no longer make any changes after the flash.

Which Graves did you go with? I added the Titanium slip-on 5 minutes after reinstalling the ecu wt Dan’s flash, couldn’t ask for a better sound combo, every time I start the SP up, I’m in a happy place. View attachment 260553
Same as yours, just the catback, not the full system
 

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Get innit! What group/level are you riding in?

What’s the benefit then? Why do you suppose Dan offers it as an option to disable?
 

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What’s the benefit then? Why do you suppose Dan offers it as an option to disable?
It's an function in the Woolich software so it's offered if its an option on your specific bike.

On the previous model bikes (prior to throttle by wire) disabling fuel cut on decel provided a smooth transition from a closed throttle to getting back on the throttle.

It can be argued that it is an aid for poor throttle control but for me it really helped in slow or stop and go traffic especially when you add a quick turn throttle into the mix
 

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Get innit! What group/level are you riding in?
Its a 3 group set up A, B, C where A = advanced, B = intermediate, and C = novice. I ran with group B, historically in my younger days when I had much bigger balls I was an A group rider with a stock 07 600RR. I can't imagine I can get back to that level of confidence, but more track time will tell. My buddy that is a coach told me I was pacing faster than the slowest A guys, but those are also guys that probably shouldn't have been there anyways.

It's an function in the Woolich software so it's offered if its an option on your specific bike.

On the previous model bikes (prior to throttle by wire) disabling fuel cut on decel provided a smooth transition from a closed throttle to getting back on the throttle.

It can be argued that it is an aid for poor throttle control but for me it really helped in slow or stop and go traffic especially when you add a quick turn throttle into the mix
This is pretty much exactly what Danos explained in my phone call to discuss the options.

Trackday update. Damn it was a fun day, my body was not ready for it regardless of how fit I try to keep myself. At 24-26 when I was tracking a bunch I was running middle of the pack in A group, 20 minute sessions didn't seem like enough track time, now at 36 I'm out there for 1 slow warm up lap, 1 moderate paced lap, then 4-6 hard laps and I'm toast.


I have no question Danos' tune did what it was supposed to do and even got confirmation from one of the trackday coaches that had ridden my bike in the past stating it certainly felt faster. Very happy with the results and will certainly recommend Danos for someone look for a tune that doesn't want to spend the cash on a dynotune.
 
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