GP shifting ‘19

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ae86ozzy

Discussion Starter · 1 mo ago

I have yet to come across on a post asking this question if there is some I am sorry for asking again!
2019 cbr1k with quick shifter “stock foot pegs” I have done everything to run GP shifting cut the plastic to make it fit. The ONLY problem I am having is when shifting into gear sometimes it’s super hard to go into gear like if the quick shifter isn’t reading the changing of gear right any ideas or thoughts thanks a lot!

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Ces One

· #2 · 1 mo ago

ae86ozzy said:
I have yet to come across on a post asking this question if there is some I am sorry for asking again!
2019 cbr1k with quick shifter “stock foot pegs” I have done everything to run GP shifting cut the plastic to make it fit. The ONLY problem I am having is when shifting into gear sometimes it’s super hard to go into gear like if the quick shifter isn’t reading the changing of gear right any ideas or thoughts thanks a lot!

I was told recently that quick shifters functioning properly depend on your chain slack being correct. It’s printed on your swing arm on a sticker.
See picture below
I was also told that 20mm-25mm is also an acceptable amount of chain slack for your quick shifter to function properly.
I had a problem with my OEM Honda quick shifter on my 22 CBR 1000 RR.
The rod that connects the transmission spline to the shift foot lever was slightly rubbing against a frame cap I installed. Not very much. It was actually very hard to tell that it was rubbing at all. Once I spaced it out a little further away from the motorcycle, my quick shifter stopped being moody. And started working perfectly.
You might want to check these things.
Good luck!

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Ces One

· #3 · 1 mo ago

30mm aka 1.25 inches of slack according to Honda.

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ae86ozzy

Discussion Starter · #4 · 1 mo ago

Ces One said:
30mm aka 1.25 inches of slack according to Honda.
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Thank you for all the info
Might sound dumb but how do you measure the slack on the chain all I hear is “rule of thumb” 3 fingers means it’s good 😂

ae86ozzy

Discussion Starter · #5 · 1 mo ago

Ces One said:
I was told recently that quick shifters functioning properly depend on your chain slack being correct. It’s printed on your swing arm on a sticker.
See picture below
I was also told that 20mm-25mm is also an acceptable amount of chain slack for your quick shifter to function properly.
I had a problem with my OEM Honda quick shifter on my 22 CBR 1000 RR.
The rod that connects the transmission spline to the shift foot lever was slightly rubbing against a frame cap I installed. Not very much. It was actually very hard to tell that it was rubbing at all. Once I spaced it out a little further away from the motorcycle, my quick shifter stopped being moody. And started working perfectly.
You might want to check these things.
Good luck!
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Also to mention my quick shifter works fine on normal shifting 1 down 5 up… but once I try GP shifting 1 up 5 down it starts acting up “hard to go into gear, sometimes it doesn’t go into gear unless with clutch, or sometimes goes into gear really hard”

Ces One

· #6 · 1 mo ago

ae86ozzy said:
Thank you for all the info
Might sound dumb but how do you measure the slack on the chain all I hear is “rule of thumb” 3 fingers means it’s good 😂

You grab the chain with your index finger and your thumb and you move it up and down. You have to hold a ruler behind it so you can see how much it’s moving. This is outside of my mechanical ability so I only trust it to professional mechanics.
And,
I don’t know why your bike would shift fine in standard shift mode and not shift fine in GP shift mode. That is also something I would take to a professional mechanic.
Ultimately, it could be a safety issue, and should only be trusted to a certified mechanic. As your safety is involved.
With all due respect.

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Ces One

· #7 · 1 mo ago

ae86ozzy said:
Also to mention my quick shifter works fine on normal shifting 1 down 5 up… but once I try GP shifting 1 up 5 down it starts acting up “hard to go into gear, sometimes it doesn’t go into gear unless with clutch, or sometimes goes into gear really hard”

Quick shifters only work above 2nd gear.
Not to sound dumb, but I hope you’re not trying to shift into first and out of 1st to 2nd without using your clutch lever. That’s not how quick shifters work. And this might sound insane, but make sure that your quick shifter works for shifting up and down. Not all Quik shifters do this. Also, if you’re on a 2017 through 2023 CBR 1000 RR, you have to initialize your quick shifter inside the brain and after you do that, you have to turn it on, and set it to shift up and down. QS icon with an up arrow and a down arrow will show on your dash.
good luck

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Ces One

· #8 · 1 mo ago

When you’re first sitting on your bike at a standstill, and you put your bike into first gear, are you pulling in your clutch lever with your left hand? You have to do this. Mandatory. Also, when your bike is not fully warmed up, it will clunk into first gear, pretty hard. It will even do this sometimes when it is fully warmed up. I don’t know why motorcycles do this, but they have always done this in my experience. And earlier when I said above first gear that has nothing to do with regular shift or GP shift I just mean when you’re shifting a past first into second gear , even with a quick shifter, you must use your clutch lever . you can skip using your clutch lever using a quick shifter when going from 2nd to 6th and back down. But I still use my clutch lever whenever I go into first. Either at a stop or downshifting. Entering and exiting first gear requires a clutch, even with a quick shifter.

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Quentin

· #9 · 1 mo ago

You can not use gp shift with stock foot peg on 2019 cbr.
The point of the shifter is to help you "rev matching" your engine and your transmission.
When pressing up, the shifter cut ignition which is specific to going up one gear.
When pressing down, the shifter let your engin rev up to go down one gear.

You are doing exactly the opposite with you gp shift setup.

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ae86ozzy

Discussion Starter · #10 · 1 mo ago

Ces One said:
Quick shifters only work above 2nd gear.
Not to sound dumb, but I hope you’re not trying to shift into first and out of 1st to 2nd without using your clutch lever. That’s not how quick shifters work. And this might sound insane, but make sure that your quick shifter works for shifting up and down. Not all Quik shifters do this. Also, if you’re on a 2017 through 2023 CBR 1000 RR, you have to initialize your quick shifter inside the brain and after you do that, you have to turn it on, and set it to shift up and down. QS icon with an up arrow and a down arrow will show on your dash.
good luck

Thank you for the reply…. I’m only using the quick shifter from 2-6 gear and on my dash it does show the arrow up and down it’s the OEM Honda QS

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ae86ozzy

Discussion Starter · #11 · 1 mo ago

Quentin said:
You can not use gp shift with stock foot peg on 2019 cbr.
The point of the shifter is to help you "rev matching" your engine and your transmission.
When pressing up, the shifter cut ignition which is specific to going up one gear.
When pressing down, the shifter let your engin rev up to go down one gear.

You are doing exactly the opposite with you gp shift setup.

Thank you

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John Harris

· #12 · 30 d ago

I guess I am glad to have the 2017 SP, the quick shifter works in all gears, only need the clutch when stopped, once moving you don't need the clutch. Love the sound of the engine reving when shifting down from 2nd to 1st going into a fast tight turn without using the clutch.

Ces One

· #13 · 29 d ago

ae86ozzy said:
Thank you for all the info
Might sound dumb but how do you measure the slack on the chain all I hear is “rule of thumb” 3 fingers means it’s good 😂

I sent you a private message on here.
In your account under conversations.
You should have an alert for the message as well.
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Capt. Khlamydia

· #14 · 24 d ago

John Harris said:
I guess I am glad to have the 2017 SP, the quick shifter works in all gears, only need the clutch when stopped, once moving you don't need the clutch. Love the sound of the engine reving when shifting down from 2nd to 1st going into a fast tight turn without using the clutch.

I also have the 17 SP. I have no issues using the quickshifter up and down between 1st and 2nd. I have never heard anywhere that you cant quickshift from 1st to 2nd, but maybe it depends on manufacturer

Ces One

· #15 · 23 d ago

Capt. Khlamydia said:
I also have the 17 SP. I have no issues using the quickshifter up and down between 1st and 2nd. I have never heard anywhere that you cant quickshift from 1st to 2nd, but maybe it depends on manufacturer

I Have the OEM Honda quick shifter.
Maybe I am remembering wrong about not using the QS from 1st to 2nd.
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I know that this is the case for the assisted shifting on my 2022 Honda CRF450RWE dirt bike. That may have influenced my memory of the CBR QS.

Quentin

· #16 · 22 d ago

Personally I have no issue between 1st and 2nd.

The only instructions/restrictions from Honda while shifting gear are:

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Ces One

· #17 · 21 d ago

Quentin said:
Personally I have no issue between 1st and 2nd.

The only instructions/restrictions from Honda while shifting gear are:

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Ok cool.
Thanks for that !

A Squids Life

· #18 · 19 d ago

Ces One said:
Quick shifters only work above 2nd gear.
Not to sound dumb, but I hope you’re not trying to shift into first and out of 1st to 2nd without using your clutch lever. That’s not how quick shifters work.

This is wrong, the QS works in all gears. There are multiple threads on here with lots of pics on how to get the QS to work in GP config. Search.

Ces One

· #19 · 19 d ago

A Squids Life said:
This is wrong, the QS works in all gears. There are multiple threads on here with lots of pics on how to get the QS to work in GP config. Search.

If you read beyond this post you quoted,
you’ll see that’s been established.
Thanks

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