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Yes I joined in 2018 but rarely check this site out but since I'm here now has anyone had their ECU flashed on their 17 CBR ? I'm waiting for my to come back from Moore Mafia out of south Carolina. I should have mine back this Saturday. While waiting for the ECU I geared down and went up two teeth on the rear sprocket stock 43 to 45 and kepted the front @ stock 16 teeth. I also switched to a 520 chain from EK. I hoping for more torque off the line.
 

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I seen all their posts on the youtube, and heard a few others mention them... I opted to go with RC45 (Paul) as he seems to be way beyond the level of many of the places flash tuning bikes.
I get my Ecu back on Friday, SP2, stock gearing, Akra slip on... Just hoping the weather holds.
 
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I seen all their posts on the youtube, and heard a few others mention them... I opted to go with RC45 (Paul) as he seems to be way beyond the level of many of the places flash tuning bikes.
I get my Ecu back on Friday, SP2, stock gearing, Akra slip on... Just hoping the weather holds.
Look forward to hearing your feedback. I'm leaning towards Woolich DIY route
 

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Look forward to hearing your feedback. I'm leaning towards Woolich DIY route
For what it's worth I have the woolich autotune on my '15 and if you are planning all your mods at once and don't plan on further mods I would just go the ECU mail in flash route.
I have no complaints with the WR autotune set up at all but once I got it tuned to my liking it's just an expensive paperweight.

I can see the benefit to those who plan on adding mods gradually, run different tracks, drag race, or want to tune for different areas or seasons but for a street bike/commuter a mail in or dyno tune flash would be the best bang for buck

Am actually thinking about pulling it off the bike and selling since I haven't messed with it in months
 

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Yes I joined in 2018 but rarely check this site out but since I'm here now has anyone had their ECU flashed on their 17 CBR ? I'm waiting for my to come back from Moore Mafia out of south Carolina. I should have mine back this Saturday. While waiting for the ECU I geared down and went up two teeth on the rear sprocket stock 43 to 45 and kepted the front @ stock 16 teeth. I also switched to a 520 chain from EK. I hoping for more torque off the line.
Once you're settled in and used to it, I'll send you one of my ECUs for you to compare.
I would be interested in some impartial feedback as to just how much quicker the bike is with my tune in it ;)

I seen all their posts on the youtube, and heard a few others mention them... I opted to go with RC45 (Paul) as he seems to be way beyond the level of many of the places flash tuning bikes.
I get my Ecu back on Friday, SP2, stock gearing, Akra slip on... Just hoping the weather holds.
Funny story, I have an ECU in South Carolina, the bike is now just referred to as "That Honda" as it was cleaning up this last couple weekends. Some locals were convinced the bike must have internal mods, how else do you explain such a jump in trap speed?
Last word was that the bike must be a moore bike because its so fast - :unsure::(
 

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Once you're settled in and used to it, I'll send you one of my ECUs for you to compare.
I would be interested in some impartial feedback as to just how much quicker the bike is with Dano’s tune in it ;)
we finally agree on something. :eek: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Once you're settled in and used to it, I'll send you one of my ECUs for you to compare.
I would be interested in some impartial feedback as to just how much quicker the bike is with my tune in it ;)


Funny story, I have an ECU in South Carolina, the bike is now just referred to as "That Honda" as it was cleaning up this last couple weekends. Some locals were convinced the bike must have internal mods, how else do you explain such a jump in trap speed?
Last word was that the bike must be a moore bike because its so fast - :unsure::(
RC45 do you have any dyno charts to back up your anecdotal claims? I'm not doubting you, but a picture is worth a thousand words. Ideally I would want to see stock USA tune, vs stock Euro tune, vs RC45 "HRC" tune. Would love to see that. Thanks
 

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RC45 do you have any dyno charts to back up your anecdotal claims? I'm not doubting you, but a picture is worth a thousand words. Ideally I would want to see stock USA tune, vs stock Euro tune, vs RC45 "HRC" tune. Would love to see that. Thanks
No I don't, but I might make some.
The point is that power numbers really don't mean a thing - especially in a world with per gear per RPM range per TPS range Electronic Throttle Management and dyno pulls are done in 4th gear from 5000rpm to measure peak power.

A 4th gear dyno pull tells exactly zero about the behavior of the bike from a dig in 1st up through 2nd, 3rd and 4th.
4th gear dyno pull wont tell anything about how the bike behaves in 1st through 5500rpm - riding the bike will (y)
This is a new world of tuning we are in, things don't behave the old way or even work the old way any more.

Where you located? If there is a tuned ECU in your city Ill try hook you up with them.
 

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No I don't, but I might make some.
The point is that power numbers really don't mean a thing - especially in a world with per gear per RPM range per TPS range Electronic Throttle Management and dyno pulls are done in 4th gear from 5000rpm to measure peak power.

A 4th gear dyno pull tells exactly zero about the behavior of the bike from a dig in 1st up through 2nd, 3rd and 4th.
4th gear dyno pull wont tell anything about how the bike behaves in 1st through 5500rpm - riding the bike will (y)
This is a new world of tuning we are in, things don't behave the old way or even work the old way any more.

Where you located? If there is a tuned ECU in your city Ill try hook you up with them.
Relative power numbers definitely do mean a thing. It's not everything, but it's an objective data point. I hope you make some.
Once you tune for max power in a high gear, essentially all you are doing is taking power out in the lower gears. The stock tune takes a lot of power out, I presume your tune takes less power out. Personally I would want very little power taken out, such that 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and 6th ALL DO BEHAVE SIMILARLY at least when the bike is upright. Do you change the tune regarding power and lean angle? Furthermore with the stock tune, if I turn TC to 0, does Honda give you the same power if I go full throttle bolt upright vs at a 45 degree lean? What about with TC at 1,2,3? Or is it related to the Power setting? Again do you tweak that relationship?

I'm in San Diego.
 

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Relative power numbers definitely do mean a thing. It's not everything, but it's an objective data point. I hope you make some.
Once you tune for max power in a high gear, essentially all you are doing is taking power out in the lower gears. The stock tune takes a lot of power out, I presume your tune takes less power out. Personally I would want very little power taken out, such that 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and 6th ALL DO BEHAVE SIMILARLY at least when the bike is upright. Do you change the tune regarding power and lean angle? Furthermore with the stock tune, if I turn TC to 0, does Honda give you the same power if I go full throttle bolt upright vs at a 45 degree lean? What about with TC at 1,2,3? Or is it related to the Power setting? Again do you tweak that relationship?

I'm in San Diego.
I don't want to engage in a long winded back and forth especially in someone else's thread that will probably end with a "certain contingent" swinging by just to slag me off.
You're not quite understanding the mechanism (no shame, very few of the tuners do either) its not really a system of taking power way, it is a system of only smoothly feeding usable power in.

Again, to a T I have never had any person coming from any other tuners SC77 tune not saying the bike pulled harder everywhere and was faster off the line, faster out of turns and faster up top.
Understand also the OEM street ECU provides access to 5 power settings and as such 'my' ECUs are tuned for 5 discrete personas, from P1 pure bragging rights to P5 true feathered Rain Mode.

Incidentally I have a test rider in the PNW that provides real world rainy weather commute feedback as the Rain Mode is refined and perfected.

I really don't want to get into a he-say-she-say in the other blokes thread, my point was just to offer him an ECU to try out back to back and report back whether it was better or not.
His honest feedback would surely help answer the questions. On the surface it seems to be a very risky thing for me to do, but I have nothing to hide (y)
 

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I don't want to engage in a long winded back and forth especially in someone else's thread that will probably end with a "certain contingent" swinging by just to slag me off.
You're not quite understanding the mechanism (no shame, very few of the tuners do either) its not really a system of taking power way, it is a system of only smoothly feeding usable power in.

Again, to a T I have never had any person coming from any other tuners SC77 tune not saying the bike pulled harder everywhere and was faster off the line, faster out of turns and faster up top.
Understand also the OEM street ECU provides access to 5 power settings and as such 'my' ECUs are tuned for 5 discrete personas, from P1 pure bragging rights to P5 true feathered Rain Mode.

Incidentally I have a test rider in the PNW that provides real world rainy weather commute feedback as the Rain Mode is refined and perfected.

I really don't want to get into a he-say-she-say in the other blokes thread, my point was just to offer him an ECU to try out back to back and report back whether it was better or not.
His honest feedback would surely help answer the questions. On the surface it seems to be a very risky thing for me to do, but I have nothing to hide (y)

Just curious... What makes your tune so superior to other leading tuners out there? In other terms, How much tune could a tuner tune if a tuner could tune tunes?
 

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Relative power numbers definitely do mean a thing. It's not everything, but it's an objective data point. I hope you make some.
Once you tune for max power in a high gear, essentially all you are doing is taking power out in the lower gears. The stock tune takes a lot of power out, I presume your tune takes less power out. Personally I would want very little power taken out, such that 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and 6th ALL DO BEHAVE SIMILARLY at least when the bike is upright. Do you change the tune regarding power and lean angle? Furthermore with the stock tune, if I turn TC to 0, does Honda give you the same power if I go full throttle bolt upright vs at a 45 degree lean? What about with TC at 1,2,3? Or is it related to the Power setting? Again do you tweak that relationship?

I'm in San Diego.
I reached out to some folks in southern California and a bloke about 30 miles north of you would love to meet up for some fun socal riding, trading war stories and let you see an improved bike in action.
If you're on Facebook DM me your details and I will introduce you guys.
 

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I reached out to some folks in southern California and a bloke about 30 miles north of you would love to meet up for some fun socal riding, trading war stories and let you see an improved bike in action.
If you're on Facebook DM me your details and I will introduce you guys.
That's cool thanks for doing the leg work RC45. I'll PM you.
 

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I'm glad your happy as well. I have been a Honda guy forever. Street and motocross. When I bought this bike it was the first time I was ever dissatisfied with a Honda. I love it now, (Moore ecu flash). Have fun and stay safe.
 
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