goto feelthetrack.com for pics of certain problems or preload or compression you can tell by the way they are wearing good luck
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Hey fellas,
I had the blade out today for some spirited riding. This was my third day out on the bike this season. Last week I noticed that the bike that quicker turn in and felt more flickable than my 04 gsxr 750. Today on taking some corners I noticed that the bike seemed to be running a little wide. This could all be in my head as it's my 2nd time taking hard corners with the bike.
The reason I believe the problem is suspension settings related is because examining my tires, the chicken strips on my rear tire are very close in size to the ones on my front tire (I'll get pics tomorrow)...Now, I'm not an expert by any means on suspension settings, but I watched the Dave Moss videos and learned the basics. On my GSXR 750 I had no chicken strips on my rear tire...In fact the directional arrow and the michelin man were getting worn away...but the front tire still had about 1/2-3/4" of unused rubber.
So this situation is telling me one thing, that I'm pushing the front too hard...which scares the shit outta me, cuz that's a recipe for disaster. I'm going to play with the rebound and compression tomorrow to see if it helps any. While adjusting the rebound and compression are there any things I should particularly pay attention too while riding? Any telltale signs for example too much compression damping or not enough rebound etc...I measured the preload front and rear, and the front seems to be in spec, and the rear is slightly stiff (I think about a 1/4" too little sag). I will remeasure those and post the readings tomorrow.
You guys are the suspension experts, please help...I'm working hard on perfecting my riding form...don't wanna have to worry about the bike's suspension too
I had the blade out today for some spirited riding. This was my third day out on the bike this season. Last week I noticed that the bike that quicker turn in and felt more flickable than my 04 gsxr 750. Today on taking some corners I noticed that the bike seemed to be running a little wide. This could all be in my head as it's my 2nd time taking hard corners with the bike.
The reason I believe the problem is suspension settings related is because examining my tires, the chicken strips on my rear tire are very close in size to the ones on my front tire (I'll get pics tomorrow)...Now, I'm not an expert by any means on suspension settings, but I watched the Dave Moss videos and learned the basics. On my GSXR 750 I had no chicken strips on my rear tire...In fact the directional arrow and the michelin man were getting worn away...but the front tire still had about 1/2-3/4" of unused rubber.
So this situation is telling me one thing, that I'm pushing the front too hard...which scares the shit outta me, cuz that's a recipe for disaster. I'm going to play with the rebound and compression tomorrow to see if it helps any. While adjusting the rebound and compression are there any things I should particularly pay attention too while riding? Any telltale signs for example too much compression damping or not enough rebound etc...I measured the preload front and rear, and the front seems to be in spec, and the rear is slightly stiff (I think about a 1/4" too little sag). I will remeasure those and post the readings tomorrow.
You guys are the suspension experts, please help...I'm working hard on perfecting my riding form...don't wanna have to worry about the bike's suspension too
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Thanx for the link...i'll check it out.goto feelthetrack.com for pics of certain problems or preload or compression you can tell by the way they are wearing good luck
No responses?? Is there anyone in the North/Central Jersey area that knows about tuning suspensions?? I just wanna get this thing suspended nicely for me, so when I take it to the track I can focus on body position, braking points, and apexes
Where you're riding, are there several 1st and 2nd gear turns? Somewhat tight sections?
First thing first..Bike needs to be srpung for your weight or u are just wasting time.
Get the correct springs for your weight,setup your sag, THEN start tweaking the compression/rebound settings.
Good sag readings should be 40mm front /30mm rear
The best two things you can do to the rr to help the handling is a 190/55 rear tire and a ohlins rear shock.
Get the correct springs for your weight,setup your sag, THEN start tweaking the compression/rebound settings.
Good sag readings should be 40mm front /30mm rear
The best two things you can do to the rr to help the handling is a 190/55 rear tire and a ohlins rear shock.
My guess is that (if sag is already set) you are still getting used to a 190 size tire. Correct me if im wrong but the Suckzuki 750 had a 180 right? That little extra fatness on the tire will make a difference, you just have to get used to it.
you can also go to onthethrottle.tv and they have suspension videos by dave moss that detail how to set sag, compression and rebound that are different from the one you probably saw. good luck
you can also go to onthethrottle.tv and they have suspension videos by dave moss that detail how to set sag, compression and rebound that are different from the one you probably saw. good luck
Could be too much compression damping in the front/too little rebound damping in the front, too much compression/too little rebound in the rear, or your forks might be too low in the triples. Could be other things like spring rates or fork oil but you should be able to adjust it out within reason for the street with your suspension settings.
Thanx for the responses...I am still getting used to the 190 tire...is it really that much difference. I added some rebound in the rear and then standardized the compression front/rear. It def helped. I hit some twisties today, and the bike was much much better. Oh btw, the sag should be fine, I checked it in the winter when I first got the bike...it's pretty close. 1 1/4 rear and 1 1/2 front.
I need to post pics of the chicken strips...it's actually pretty crazy. As soon as I get access to a digital camera
I need to post pics of the chicken strips...it's actually pretty crazy. As soon as I get access to a digital camera
lol IE it could be a suspension issue???Could be too much compression damping in the front/too little rebound damping in the front, too much compression/too little rebound in the rear, or your forks might be too low in the triples. Could be other things like spring rates or fork oil but you should be able to adjust it out within reason for the street with your suspension settings.
yes, IE something is wrong.lol IE it could be a suspension issue???
Go to my website and print out my table on suspension setup. Click on the link below in my sig.
Click on VTR1000F>Performance and Mods>Suspension Setup and Troubleshooting.
This should help solve most of your problems. When making adjustments only adjust one thing at a time and 1/4 turn max at a time. Then evaluate the change.
The RR is a little sensitive to geometry changes, which are not addressed in that guide. Read more in this subforum for additional geometry gouge.
Click on VTR1000F>Performance and Mods>Suspension Setup and Troubleshooting.
This should help solve most of your problems. When making adjustments only adjust one thing at a time and 1/4 turn max at a time. Then evaluate the change.
The RR is a little sensitive to geometry changes, which are not addressed in that guide. Read more in this subforum for additional geometry gouge.
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