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I hate to say it buddy, but you are coming across as THAT guy.

The one that rushes in without planning and when asking for advice does not stop to actually take it.

well the saga continues with my $26000 SP2, Honda could not pull a fault code using the DLC, and since they could not pull a code they will not honor warantee until
i purchse a new SCU and ECM since i put everything back to stock they even want me to remove the exup eliminator and reinstall the stock oem muffler, stock fuel cap and exup motor.
What did you think would happen when you went back to the manufacturer after you literally erased the control computer and installed your own system in its place?

You did void your warranty the moment you flashed the ECU.

And the price of the bike really has nothing to do with it, the very same logic and warranty status would apply to a new GROM ECU.

my link i posted was not to put blame on the motoamerica honda team but was to illustrate that everybody is having problems fooling with the honda ecm and its
highly esoteric CAN com system
No, only folks that do not follow instructions or advice have trouble with the Honda ECU - MotoA team included.
All they had to do was go HRC while they worked on a Mag Marelli solution.
There are 10 people in my phone with successfully flashed and modded SP2s.
And 2 with failed projects.
The 2 with failed projects didn't follow advice.

Pennrite Team in Australia won AusSBK using a Woolich flashed ECU on their SP/SP2 bikes.

So much for flashing my ecu. Apparently they the dealer sought help from Honda technical in CA and this was there advice. Hopefully in the end i will get this bike sorted and sell it stock and will not risk flashing again. Apparently also the ghost codes stay and sometimes are impossible to clear so you have to buy a new ecm
Also Honda dealer checked all the connections for lose or unconnected wires and nothing was found out of the ordinary.
The dealer and Honda Tech CA do not really know what they are talking about - this is literally NOT rocket science it is very basic simple solid state electronics.

BTW, did you tell Honda that you shorted the ECU while bench flashing the ECU?

Guys if you want a honda do not buy one, for myself i have 3 superbikes/sport bikes, 17 gsxr1000r, 15R1m AND ZX10RR AND no problems flashing and highlt modifying all i did myself no comm issues or nothing Do not buy Honda unless you want to own a stock smog anti pollution POS
I literally hate American Honda and despise them for the shifty marketing they did around the SP2 and for the fact they REFUSE to stand behind and support the SP2 as a race bike and that I had to go it alone whil ebuilding it into a WSBK - but come on we gotta be honest here. This situation on your bike is all your own doing.

The bike was $26,000 - you butchered the ECU while flashing it. Just pony up and spend the $1200 on a new ECU and chalk it up to experience.

When you buy and mod cars/bikes you gotta pay to play.

I honestly would have more respect for the outcome if you had come back after the fact and said "I bought a new ECU, the bike is all sorted out, I solved a problem Honda could not - fugg Honda they are jerks".

BTW, I will buy your SP2 sight unseen for $10,000 if you want. :stirpot::grin2:
 

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Unfortunately, what RC45 stated is the hard truth. I was the first SP1, US version atleast (ECU L-13), to flash their ECU with the Woolich software. Had to spend the hour reading it, sending the data to them in order to do their thing, and then waited 2 more weeks for them to make the ECU flashable. I also initially ran into that hard fail due to having pulled the exup valve and EVAP canister items prior to first re-write. Reached out to Anthony at Woolich right away, found out the issue with pulling parts before flashing, which is not a Honda specific issue btw, other makes/models are confirmed by Woolich to have the same “hardfail” issue nowadays if you pull parts before you flash for the first time. I restored my ECU, reinstalled stock parts, flashed, pulled parts back off and have done dozens of flashes to my SP1 over the past few months with no adverse effects. So you really can’t blame and bash Honda over this, especially when an ECU flash goes wrong, everyone has the disclaimer that you perform that action at your own risk and will most likely void any warranty by doing such, so should be prepared to roll that dice if you decide to go down that road...
 

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I could care less what you think and what you respect, this is a major disaster, even you the genius screwed up your ecu so you bad you ended up spending 10s of thousands to rebuild some kind of frankenstein bike. I don't know if this is some kind of ass kiss for woolich or what but this Honda ecu is a disaster to say the least,
dont know what to say but i already threw down and waiting for a ecu and scu to come in.

I trust my Honda dealership been dealing with them for 15 years. Ive been flashing for 7 years now and no issue what so ever.

This was a new thing with this Honda flashing, first removing parts then flash. Maybe woolich should have posted something on their website regarding the order of doing things, that would have definitely a two sentence statement on their website. But no as usual god forbid someone gives a little information that may help.

RC45 whats this attitude like well you knew what you were getting into, absolutely i did but still there is a obvious issue with flashing this ecu. I had nothing but problems "oh yeah" i didnt flash first before i removed parts. Not to mention that you arent able to remove ghost codes so in effect you have to purchase new ecu.


I must say though and it is well documented that honda's CAN is a problem it is a problem for woolich and ftecu.
I also heard Woolich is having problems with this bike

Not to mention that there are only 40 sp2s in this country im not even sure woolich has all the bugs out. But i can't use it again because i have no faith that nor do i want to risk screwing this ecu up again. Sorry Woolich, but Im out 2 ecus 2 license, bench flash and bike flash kit, well how much money is that?
I should feel bad for Woolich, give me a break. I feel they were worried i was going to hit them up for a new ecu.

So to you rc 45 eat shit. Seems like you keep getting in arguments with other posters dont know what your attitude is about like your better than everyone else.

take a hike and stay off my thread with your attitude.
SInji my bike is SP2, so no one worked with me getting my ecu right, yours is a sp1, WOolich never called me or asked to work with getting sp2 right, they treated me like i was flashing a 2015 zx10r,
So sinji so much for being self righteous
Maybe Woolich should get more involved in working out the bugs, because i reflashed, i recovered then i was told i dont have to recover.
THere is a bug with this kit for sure. I even replaced everything after sending my ecu to AZ and no fix,
all connections are in place and confirmed.
 

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honda's CAN is a problem it is a problem for woolich and ftecu.
I also heard Woolich is having problems with this bike
'Heard' and 'actually are' are two different things - people who follow the directions given to them, using the Woolich software have had zero issues fixing any potential problems before, during and after flashing. I mean the factory Honda team running in Aussie SBK has been flashing their SP2 for over a year longer than anyone else, including even that other company and RRF in MotoAmerica. Zero issues. Won their superbike class this year.

So there is no problem with the Honda and the WRT software provided people follow directions given to them - or - provide the people trying to actually help them with real info like
Im to blame, I screwed this ecu up, once i ended up removing the starter solenoid and accidentally touched a hot line and a big spark and burnt fuse. it never worked right after that.
Rather than having to have them find out for themselves on on the forums AFTER the fact they spent however many hours back and forth with you. Constantly having to reiterate the same thing over, and over, and over and over on how to look at, diagnose, recover and fix your ECU. Several times. But hey, like you didn't let them know you shorted out your own stuff, you also failed to disclose your own inability to follow the directions given to you, several times over, how to fix any ECU based issues. (Self-shorted out ECU/electrical system not withstanding) Also don't mention hours or so of personal time they spent reading and writing the ECU over and over to ensure the ECU was functioning fine (which it was) and the ECU was not in recovery (which it wasn't). So don't start point fingers at someone without realizing there are a couple pointed back at yourself as well. It's not someone else's fault you cooked your ECU/electronics. If even the Honda dealership can't figure out the issue, you dicked it up pretty well by cooking it.

I should feel bad for Woolich, give me a break. I feel they were worried i was going to hit them up for a new ecu.
Why, because you
Im to blame, I screwed this ecu up, once i ended up removing the starter solenoid and accidentally touched a hot line and a big spark and burnt fuse. it never worked right after that.
? Woolich has always and always will back up their products. If it was something they did, they'll definitely buy you a new ECU if it was something they did or something caused on their end. NOT by someone shorting something out or failing to disclose that to them (thanks by the way for the info). I wonder... have you told your Honda dealer the same thing? I wonder how they would treat seeing this?
Im to blame, I screwed this ecu up, once i ended up removing the starter solenoid and accidentally touched a hot line and a big spark and burnt fuse. it never worked right after that.
WOolich never called me or asked to work with getting sp2 right, they treated me like i was flashing a 2015 zx10r
Maybe Woolich should get more involved in working out the bugs, because i reflashed, i recovered then i was told i dont have to recover.
THere is a bug with this kit for sure. I even replaced everything after sending my ecu to AZ and no fix,
all connections are in place and confirmed.
How many times was your ticket answered at all times of day and night and more importantly PROMPTLY? Like within 5-10 minutes? And no, there is no bug with "the kit" only bugs with the user. You sent your ECU to AZ, there was no fix, because 1) the read/write functions of the ECU was not effected by when YOU SHORTED out your bike/ECU/electronic system and 2) the ECU was not in a recovery state. Kind of hard to fix an issue when there is no issue with the ECU other than the self imposed cooking of it that you did. I mean, you want to throw people under the bus, should I pull each and every one of your tickets and their time stamped responses, screenshots and video recordings of testing your actual ECU confirming it wasn't anything on their end, posting them here for everyone to see the directions given and your inability to follow? I definitely can...
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Woolich can't fix an ECU that is fried by someone who cooks it themselves... If you're hot swapping electronics that has nothing to do with updating the programming inside of the ECU. Especially after you cooked it, and the ECU can still be read, can still be written and still be recovered when it is a recovery issue. (Not a self imposed cooked ECU issue)

(Also, by the way, you were fully credited back for any extra licenses you think you may have purchased. You flashed two separate ECUs, you needed two keys. There is still a free ECU key sitting on your account that they gave you... but hey... don't mention that either.)
 

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I could care less what you think and what you respect, this is a major disaster, even you the genius screwed up your ecu so you bad you ended up spending 10s of thousands to rebuild some kind of frankenstein bike.
There is nothing wrong with my stock SP2 Woolich flashed ECU.

Not sure where you got that nonsense from but if this is your way of having a dig at Woolich, stop while you are ahead - I have never implied, suggested or in any way every said Woolich screwed up my ECU.

I chose to build an HRC based WSBK after Ten Kate expressed interest in assistign me to do that. That is why my Honda ECU and harness are in a box. They have been replaced with an HRC harness and ECU. The only stock pieces of the bike left are the engine and frame.
The Woolich flashed version of my bike was flawless and pulled 178rwhp without optimized AFR and a stock air cleaner. Not a check engine light any where to be seen.

I don't know if this is some kind of ass kiss for woolich or what but this Honda ecu is a disaster to say the least,
dont know what to say but i already threw down and waiting for a ecu and scu to come in.
No ass kiss needed. If you already "threw down' for an ECU why all the drama?

I trust my Honda dealership been dealing with them for 15 years. Ive been flashing for 7 years now and no issue what so ever.
How many SP2s have you and they successfully flashed? I have done 1 and helped guided 9 other 17+ CBR SP2 & base owners to successful flashes and tunes. The only 2 failures where self induced and 1 of them sorted everything out after taking my advice. And most of the time I directed them straight to Woolich if they had questions or they, along with their tuner followed advice and got the job done correctly.

This was a new thing with this Honda flashing, first removing parts then flash. Maybe woolich should have posted something on their website regarding the order of doing things, that would have definitely a two sentence statement on their website. But no as usual god forbid someone gives a little information that may help.
I believe there are multiple time this information was shared with you on this very forum. I know I have posted about it ad-nausea - I honestly don't even recall if we ever spoke on the phone but I would have told you exactly the same thing.

RC45 whats this attitude like well you knew what you were getting into, absolutely i did but still there is a obvious issue with flashing this ecu. I had nothing but problems "oh yeah" i didnt flash first before i removed parts. Not to mention that you arent able to remove ghost codes so in effect you have to purchase new ecu.
You flashed an ECU. In other words you voided your warranty. So, yes you knew what you where getting into.
We all did - anytime we flash an ECU we void the FACTORY warranty. If you and your dealer are so close how come they never went to bat for your and your warranty claim? Do they know about the short circuits?

I must say though and it is well documented that honda's CAN is a problem it is a problem for woolich and ftecu.
I also heard Woolich is having problems with this bike

Not to mention that there are only 40 sp2s in this country im not even sure woolich has all the bugs out. But i can't use it again because i have no faith that nor do i want to risk screwing this ecu up again. Sorry Woolich, but Im out 2 ecus 2 license, bench flash and bike flash kit, well how much money is that?

I should feel bad for Woolich, give me a break. I feel they were worried i was going to hit them up for a new ecu.
There are at least 85 SP2s in the USA. With at least 9 successful Woolich tuned bikes (many more if you count SP1 and ABS bikes) - that is at least 10% of the US SP2s successfully flashed using Woolich software. That's a decent number - I bet any time a vendor can get 10% of a market that's a good count.

So to you rc 45 eat shit. Seems like you keep getting in arguments with other posters dont know what your attitude is about like your better than everyone else.

take a hike and stay off my thread with your attitude.
Take a hike? Funny, that was not your attitude when you asked my advice - and I gave it to you.

And yes, yes it seems I am better at comprehending the technical requirements and especially following instructions. I make no apologies for being right. Anytime I lock horns with someone it is probably because I am right and they don't like to hear/read that.

SInji my bike is SP2, so no one worked with me getting my ecu right, yours is a sp1, WOolich never called me or asked to work with getting sp2 right, they treated me like i was flashing a 2015 zx10r,
So sinji so much for being self righteous
Maybe Woolich should get more involved in working out the bugs, because i reflashed, i recovered then i was told i dont have to recover.
THere is a bug with this kit for sure. I even replaced everything after sending my ecu to AZ and no fix,
all connections are in place and confirmed.
At least 2 people worked or at least tried to work with you.
I posted public answers and advice to your questions and I am pretty sure Woolich support responded to you.
 

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So that cheap bench kit that caused a spark is my fault I recall you telling me that is supposed to spark when connect power
I don’t remember you admitting that the ecu was fried me tony archer why cause you knew ie would have hit you up for the price for a ecu
And the second ecu I purchased that one got you worried when you realized oh oh

I couldn’t clear the ghost code so effectively destroying the second ecu

And your going to hang your reputation on well you removed your pair valv and exup first that’s why your ecu doesn’t work

I paid another $100 for second ecu that was destroyed no credit no refund

Your support would not have been need of you had the courtesy to say “make sure you flash first”. Now your blaming Moto A teams

How about a refund you can have back your bench kit DLC link and resell it to some poor schmuck

Your support was pathetic Tony woolichs wife answering questions telling me to solutions that you knew wouldn’t work

So me woolich how do you explain that your cheap bench kit with a connect that prob cost twenty cents caused it to get fried now your admitting this now but before the ecu was fine just replace the exup motor
How about the ghost code that are unable to be removed how about that little tidbit of information that readers now know
You want your company to up front backing up their product how about footing the bill for 2 ECUs I didn’t think so because I am paying for them. Have I ever asked you to pay for them. No even after you gave me that cock and bull rush excuse that “it isn’t in recovery mode and it has to be in recovery mode to recovery” you were worried that Honda’s ecu has such a finicky CAN system and the ecu wasn’t able to be
Saved.

I’ll tell you what I’ll will send your flash kit back to you in Az or Australia as my Christmas present
And for psycho RC 45 You are off the wall get a life gett out of that hanging parts locker before you fully go insane
 

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Sigh... I'm not one to typically do this and be aggressive, refer to name calling or call people stupid, but since you want to use my name and throw me under the bus despite me having the courtesy to block out your name/email from the previous screenshots... here we go...

So that cheap bench kit that caused a spark is my fault I recall you telling me that is supposed to spark when connect power
No, like your troubleshooting and reading comprehensions skills, your memory is flawed... verbatim, from ticket 750421:
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Peter Agoglia posted 20/09/2018 4:14 AM
trying to flash and the message ecu keeps repeating turn ign off click ok turn ign on
so i keep unpluggin the pwer bench kit type 2 then plugging in doesnt stop
when doing this i see green and red light
i notice when i go to connect that 2 prong connector that came with the type 2 bench kit it sparks
this is what started this please help
After it sparked it started doing that turn off click ok
the terminals were canted and that would cause a spark
what happened here please hel

Support North America posted 20/09/2018 9:33 AM
If you unplug any live power source and reconnect it, it is going to spark
- its the same as hooking up a battery cable, sometimes it sparks, sometimes it doesn't. You need to ensure you're following the directions exactly as it states in the menu box that pops up with the 3 or 4 instructions:
Disconnect power (or shut off the key if flashing on the bike)
Hit okay in the software
(in the bottom left it will say something along the lines of waiting for ignition on)
Connect power (or turn on the key if flashing on the bike)
Process starts

I have added a recovery key on your account, please go to account download bin file definitions and let it update
Once it has updated you should be able to open a stock image file in the software and click tools recover ECU and follow prompts.
Before doing that though, restart the computer and don't start any secondary applications (browser, music player, etc). Additionally ensure that if you're recovering on the bike using a bike harnesses that the battery has at least 12.8VDC at the terminals with the key and kill switch on (bike not fired up) and you have a tender on the bike to keep the charge up. Same for if you're using a battery with a bench harness (ensure it has 12.8 VDC) and you have a tender on it. If you're using a wall adapter for a power source with a bench harness measure it's output and ensure it is putting out at least 12.8 VDC - if not use a battery and verify it or find a different wall adapter). Honda is probably the most finnicky of all the ECUs so you need to pay close attention to flashing the ECU to things like the computer, battery, etc.

If the recovery process fails, try a different USB cord and USB port. If it fails again, try a different PC (Windows 10 preferably).


Anthony
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NEWS FLASH Basic electronics; if you plug a live power source into a load, it more than likely will have a small spark. That spark is not going to effect your ECU. The spark you caused, by I quote,
Im to blame, I screwed this ecu up, once i ended up removing the starter solenoid and accidentally touched a hot line and a big spark and burnt fuse. it never worked right after that.
is what cooked your ECU. Get your excuses/lies/stories/fabricated whatever right.

I don’t remember you admitting that the ecu was fried me tony archer why cause you knew ie would have hit you up for the price for a ecu
Holy, something you actually recalled correctly. Maybe there is hope for you? But yeah, that's because I didn't. Someone (YOU) didn't (conveniently) mention shorting out the starter solenoid on a live line causing your big spark and burned out fuse... Had you, I would've still assisted you all though it would all be in vain as you couldn't follow a trail of Reese's Pieces let alone words put together to form simple sentences. It's amazing you're able to follow this far, so far. GO YOU!

And the second ecu I purchased that one got you worried when you realized oh oh
I couldn’t clear the ghost code so effectively destroying the second ecu
Maybe follow directions better or go back to school and learn how to read? It's very well documented on how to clear ghost codes. The ECU wasn't "effectively destroyed" - dollar to donuts you could send it to anyone else using the products and is able to follow directions and it'd work just fine for them.

This isn't specific to Honda as Yamaha does it as well (this was also mentioned to you). Furthermore it has been documented on these forums as well by other users as well. If you remove something from the bike before flashing it out in the ECU, it will cause the engine code indicator to come on, but there is no code associated with it. Ghost code. Fixing it is stupid easy, well, not easy enough for you apparently as I went over it with you several times. All in one ear and out the other...
Put all the items you removed on the bike back
Flash a stock ECU image into the ECU
Start the bike
Shut off the bike
Open up diagnostics in the software
Click clear codes
Start the bike, ensure the indicator lamp is off
Flash the ECU disabling the items you plan on removing (pair, o2, etc)
Start the bike to ensure the codes are still off
Remove those items
Make mapping changes, load saved map, etc and proceed

And your going to hang your reputation on well you removed your pair valv and exup first that’s why your ecu doesn’t work
Yeah, I am. Because that is how EURO4/5 works and isn't specific to Honda as other manufacturers handle their diagnostics the same way. Well documented and easily fixable provided people follow the directions given to them.

I paid another $100 for second ecu that was destroyed no credit no refund
Yeah, you flash a new ECU, you need a new credit. Doesn't matter if the original ECU is stolen, abducted by aliens or damaged in an accident. You flashed a second ECU, you need a second key.

Your support would not have been need of you had the courtesy to say “make sure you flash first”. Now your blaming Moto A teams
What in the hell are you talking about? Where did I mention Moto America/teams other than stating verbatim,
ME-Motorsports said:
factory Honda team running in Aussie SBK has been flashing their SP2 for over a year longer than anyone else, including even that other company and RRF in MotoAmerica. Zero issues. Won their superbike class this year.
? Again, where am I putting blame on them for... anything? I am simply using them as a reference for time frame... (I am friends with two people on their team, FYI) You are seriously like dealing with a truly, bona fide, clinically certified crazy person.

How about a refund you can have back your bench kit DLC link and resell it to some poor schmuck
It works perfectly fine the competent hands of a user, maybe you should sell it instead? No refunds on perfectly working equipment that has been installed and/or used - used hardware only qualifies for replacement under warranty if there is indeed a problem with the hardware (and not the user as is in your case).

Your support was pathetic Tony woolichs wife answering questions telling me to solutions that you knew wouldn’t work
Please, again, show me where that was the case? The only time I had to refer back to Woolich was to get exceptions from the software IN ORDER TO HELP YOU since I don't have access to that. Those exceptions are faults that are sent back via software to be used in troubleshooting cases. You know, all the steps we asked you to do? I have all your tickets here saved to reference if you need them or want to see them.

You cannot recover an ECU that isn't in a recovery state. I don't know how many times this has to be told to you. Recovery is for instances where something like the USB cable comes disconnected mid-write, the bike's battery dies mid-write, etc. NOTHING ELSE. If your ECU isn't in recovery, which it wasn't as documented very well in your 20 support tickets for the same issue, it cannot be recovered. There is no recovery issue with it. Your ECU is able to be written and read just fine. I spent hours doing it here. YOU'RE the issue and all complaints you have, are self inflicted. All your self inflicted issues were correctable; the ECU you say is broken because it has a ghost code; reference the directions above or the several posts on the forums or even the 20 tickets you opened up... The ECU YOU fried by shorting out, and again, I quote...
Im to blame, I screwed this ecu up, once i ended up removing the starter solenoid and accidentally touched a hot line and a big spark and burnt fuse. it never worked right after that.
was damaged by you, not Woolich Racing or their products or software. You cooked the ECU you would need a new license for it's replacement just as anyone else would. I struggle to see how you cannot comprehend this rather rudimentary concept. 1 ECU = 1 license. New ECU (no matter how it comes to be needed) = New license.
Your failure to fix the ghost code on your ECU because you cannot follow directions so you stupidly go out and purchase another ECU = a new license
You cook another ECU by shorting out a the starter solenoid on a live line = a new license


So me woolich how do you explain that your cheap bench kit with a connect that prob cost twenty cents caused it to get fried now your admitting this now but before the ecu was fine just replace the exup motor
How about the ghost code that are unable to be removed how about that little tidbit of information that readers now know
This is stated in user guides, it's not our fault you can't read or comprehend. Like our directions, you probably didn't read or comprehend the user guides...
• Do not remove any sensors from the Motorcycle until they have been
disabled in the ‘Advanced Settings’ in the Woolich Racing Tuned Software.
Again, your poor communication skills and inability to properly use the engine language as well as punctuation is sending mixed signals. No where did I admit anything, I only quoted what you said which was that you yourself are to blame for the cooked ECU. I'd copy/paste the quote again but I'm bored with having to do that. You cooked your ECU. That ECU that you sent in, is not in a recovery state. That ECU that you sent in, is still functional on a read/write level DESPITE what you did to it frying out whatever else circuitry you did that stopped it from functioning on a higher level, i.e., running the bike.

You want your company to up front backing up their product how about footing the bill for 2 ECUs I didn’t think so because I am paying for them. Have I ever asked you to pay for them. No even after you gave me that cock and bull rush excuse that “it isn’t in recovery mode and it has to be in recovery mode to recovery” you were worried that Honda’s ecu has such a finicky CAN system and the ecu wasn’t able to be
Saved.
Again if it was something we did, we'd gladly cover the cost. Have ECUs been screwed up before? Yes, and they were covered by Woolich. Have I screwed up an ECU cutting it open to extract programming direct from the board? Sure have and purchased new ones. But when YOU short the F'ing thing out, there is little that can be done for it. Your ghost code is an easily fixable solution that you cannot grasp for whatever reason. I don't know if I am not using bright enough text or large enough characters. Maybe I should hand draw you step by step processes with a box of Crayolas? Let me know, I'll do it off the books for you as a Christmas present. (Holiday present if Christmas is too offensive)

I’ll tell you what I’ll will send your flash kit back to you in Az or Australia as my Christmas present
I got a better idea on where you can stick it and it doesn't require any postage...

I am done with you. Facts are, you dicked up your ECUs, one of which is still likely usable if you could follow instructions. The other, not so much - maybe next time when removing something like a starter solenoid, disconnect the battery terminals? I usually charge for this but I'll do it on the house because it is Christmas (sorry, Holiday... Holiday... Holiday... Holiday - I promise to do better)... you fly me out to New York, and I will give you an in person, instructional seminar, no matter how long, on how you should've done things or how you need to do things to fix up your other ECU you say is F'ed. Don't even have to buy me dinner or a movie - although a water with some lemon would be nice. That's my only request and it is a make or break. Shoot, don't even need to purchase a return flight, I'll buy one myself. Otherwise the free, large hand drawn and colored by Crayola flow chart done by moi (that's French for 'me') explaining the rather simple fix stands.
 

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Listen me tony archer you for some reason wanted to attack me after I did a follow up on the situation
And only did I go on the attack
You placated my issue many times
All I wanted to do was get this working
The spark incident was from your standpoint normal because you new your 2 cent power connector sparked and made the ecm unfixable now your saying I screwed up my ecu
Seems like your tip toeing jumping from one excuse to another.
And what about not being able to clear ghost codes out of Honda’s ECM that you haven’t worked out yet. No so you have no answer for that. How about this I’ll eat the cost of two ecu and you refund me my cost for your bug ridden not full worked out
Flash software how about that
Let’s face it you thought you started it and you thought your too smart to lose this argument but you did Even now feeling bad for yourself “I threw you under the bus”
You went on the attack nd you went low all I did was tell you guys a follow up with Honda dealership
So now cry weee. Yes you changed you story and now everyone knows god forbid if
Your battery isn’t fully charged and your flash fails your Honda sp2 is toast or if you connect your cheap out2cent Power connector and a spark occurs your ecu is toast no matter what your suppor link states - just do a recovery key nothing.
And pathetically as it is and I must say resorting to posting my support questions as if those answers you gave worked those answers you gave never worked none of your support answers solved this problem
Because you knew the ecu can’t be saved
If it was what you said then I wouldn’t have to defend my self. I’m sorry but Anthony Archer do you wear pink panties maybe you and the other fruitcake can spoon together

So you got caught in your web of fake solutions and I called you on it so you wanted a fight because like most bullies you thought you would win but you picked a fight with the wrong person
Like I said, if woolich racing isn’t all about money which I think they are how about refunding me the cost of your not fully thought our understanding of Honda’s CAN
flash kit and take responsibility and I’ll foot the boil for two ECM s that I had to purchase wouldn’t that be a goodwill gesture on woolich racing. I doubt it seems like woolich is greedy and just about taking your money and turning their back. Hopefully you will prove me wrong

Maybe you should be a standup business and admit you are dealing with an unknown bug like ftecu. I doubt it. My grand mother used to have a saying about people who never have enough money she would say they should joke on it

The jury is still out so step up or hide and slink under a rock by giving fake online support solutions that never worked because you were afraid I would demand the cost of 2 ECM s

As for RC45 the one who likes to start fights you obviously lost it. I bet you you thought of climbing a bell tower I would be surprised you didn’t.
So woolich how about it deal I eat $1800 and you eat $700

If not then I don’t want to hear about your support solutions that were just an artificial attempt to look as if those steps would work

Once again your solutions can’t get rid of ghost codes if the flash gets interrupted your solutions can’t resolve that for Honda’s sp2 ecm CAN system
 

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You really are special. Aren't you?

Yes, ghost codes can be cleared. Jesus H. Christ it has been stated on the forums here plenty of times by fellow SP2 owners. Just because you can't follow directions to complete a task doesn't mean it doesn't work. Really dumbing it down and simplifying it here, but if someone can't...
1) grab a tooth brush
2) wet the head of tooth brush
3) grab toothpaste
4) remove cap on toothpaste
5) dispense toothpaste on toothbrush head
6) place cap back on toothpaste
7) put toothpaste back in drawer
8) put toothbrush in mouth
9) move toothbrush gently up and down, left and right on front, back, top and sides of teeth until all teeth have been sufficiently brushed
10) pull toothbrush out of mouth
11) spit toothpaste and saliva in mouth into sink
12) rinse sink with water
...that doesn't mean the whole process is flawed. If it were we'd all be walking around with some nasty teeth. Just because you can't clear them doesn't mean the process to correct them is flawed; only the individuals ability to follow them is.

There is no tip toeing or jumping from excuse to excuse or some hidden web of lies here - just some cockamamie conspiracy theory you have baked up in your head. All because you refuse to accept the fact that:
1) you cooked one of your ECUs by shorting out the solenoid to a live wire (to which you have admitted to doing but still are attempting to blame someone and something else for doing) and
2) you (needlessly) purchased another ECU because you cannot follow simple directions on how to clear your ghost codes yet everyone else out there with an SP2 in a similar situation can and has - provided they followed directions.

Summary:
  • Peter cooked one of his ECUs, admitted it, yet still blames someone/something else for shorting out the starter solenoid across a live wire
  • Peter's second ECU is totally serviceable and he could clear his ghost code provided he was able to follow directions just like every other SP2 owner in his seat situation has been able to do
  • There is no issue with the WR hardware or software for the SP2 or any Honda for the matter
  • Ghost codes are not specific to Honda, Or what Peter feels is a fickle Honda CAN bus system... other manufacturers ECUs do the same thing if items are removed from the bike before they are flashed out of the ECU - but they are, have been and will always be able to be fixed and cleared provided simple instructions are followed, just ask any of the SP2 owners here
  • Peter's issues are all self inflicted and are able to be fixed, the ECU he cooked again admittly himself, probably not so much. If it melted a fuse I'd hate to see what else it did.
  • Just because Peter can't brush his teeth means the whole process of brushing teeth is flawed and it's some large elaborate web of lies, deceit and backroom deals between Colgate and Oral-B against just him (novel by John Grisham arriving in 2020)
All that being said I am growing tired of stating the same things over, and over, and over and over. The fact of the matter Peter is all your issues are your own doing. Some are fixable as other have done before you, some are not (see your burnt toast ECU). Once you accept those facts and are willing, and more importantly able to, follow those directions given to you, your issue will be resolved. There is no Boogeyman, cash grabbing, secret agenda against you, your bike, your dog/cat and Big ECU isn't listening in on your thoughts alongside Big Brother and Big Oil. You have been given the tools and knowledge to fix your issue of your ghost code yet you fail to put it into action either by lack of will or lack of ability to understand step by step directions.

I have assisted you in 20 separate tickets and will assist you any any others you may have but this issue is something that I feel may be a bit too technical for you. The only thing I can offer to do is provide your dealership with the knowledge on how to clear the ghost codes using the hardware you have in hopes that they have a bit more technical know how than you do. If not, well, then I wish you the best.
 

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Eyes ... wide shut
 

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Peterj59 was and I'm sure still is and will always be a complete idiot.
I get being upset with frying your ECU but once you get over the initial shock a rational sane person with a slight amount of intelligence would come to the conclusion it was completely 1000% his own doing. Nothing or no one else was to blame.

Lesson: NEVER do any "hot" work on your bike (or car or computer or TV or house oranything with electricity). Always disconnect power supply before disconnecting any electrical connector or wire terminal
 

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You can peep into the future, too?🙄😬
Give him some room, he made a mistake in the past.
 

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You can peep into the future, too?🙄😬
Give him some room, he made a mistake in the past.
Nah, his outbursts are aplenty. If you puruse other threads he’s involved in, you’ll find other times where he lashes out randomly like that. It’s like bipolar disorder or something.
 
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