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What tire pressure do you guys run on the streets? I have a 17 CBR1000RR, I keep my pressure what listed on the swingarm, but it seems sport riders, run less pressure than what listed on swingarm, I know on the track your suppose to run lower pressure, just curious what you guys, run on the streets,
 

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there are so many factors that go into setting tire pressure for each individual that there really is no "right" tire pressure setting.
My suggestion would be to start with 32f/36r cold pressure and adjust from there by checking hot tire pressure. you want to see a 10% increase in front tire pressure and 20% in the rear on a street bike.
This is just a general guideline but should get you in the ballpark

I run 34f/32r. Pirelli Diablo Rosso III, 230lb rider without gear, strictly street riding with stock Showa BPF suspension
 

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there are so many factors that go into setting tire pressure for each individual that there really is no "right" tire pressure setting.
My suggestion would be to start with 32f/36r cold pressure and adjust from there by checking hot tire pressure. you want to see a 10% increase in front tire pressure and 20% in the rear on a street bike.
This is just a general guideline but should get you in the ballpark

I run 34f/32r. Pirelli Diablo Rosso III, 230lb rider without gear, strictly street riding with stock Showa BPF suspension
Thanks for the reply.
 

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There are several videos and articles you can find doing a Google web search that will give you some insight into tire pressure settings and when/why you want to change them.

I like Dave Moss videos and articles but they are assuming you have a decent knowledge on a specific subject but many others out there will explain it in simple terms. Although it may seem complicated it really isn't.

Do some searching and watching/reading and if you don't find what you are looking for feel free to post here and ask.
 

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I’m running 36/40. So far I have not seen any reason to change that. In cooler weather I lower the pressure a couple of degrees. Keep in mind I have to do a lot of straight road riding to get to the curves. I’m trying to avoid flatening the center of the tread prematurely. From there I only make changes if I feel a need to.
 

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There are several videos and articles you can find doing a Google web search that will give you some insight into tire pressure settings and when/why you want to change them.

I like Dave Moss videos and articles but they are assuming you have a decent knowledge on a specific subject but many others out there will explain it in simple terms. Although it may seem complicated it really isn't.

Do some searching and watching/reading and if you don't find what you are looking for feel free to post here and ask.
I like to have Dave Moss set up my suspension for my weight, I know after he do it, the bike would handle much better.
 

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I like to have Dave Moss set up my suspension for my weight, I know after he do it, the bike would handle much better.
If I was out in Cali I would find an event he was offering the service and have him set my bike up for sure. Single most important and most overlooked components on a bike hands down

You can do it yourself and get it close or at least much better than the stock settings but it is well worth the cost to let a knowledgeable suspension tuner do it
 

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If I was out in Cali I would find an event he was offering the service and have him set my bike up for sure. Single most important and most overlooked components on a bike hands down

You can do it yourself and get it close or at least much better than the stock settings but it is well worth the cost to let a knowledgeable suspension tuner do it
I live in California, but he down LA area and I live in Northern California, he does remote tuning like over FaceTime, I half to look into more.
 

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I've been following the Dave Moss information on line. I've been doing adjustments myself. Fortunately I am very average size, so I don't have to do anything extreme on the Suspension.
On his tire pressure video, he recommends following the tire makers pressure settings, not the settings on the swing arm. I have a 2005, and as Dave Moss says, tire technology has changed a lot since the stock tires that came on my bike. A basic concept is, more pressure=more longevity...less tire pressure=more grip. Of course, rider size, suspension adjustments and riding purpose can change everything.....and I'm no expert, Dave Moss is.
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I agree that the first reference point should be the recommendations from the current tire's vendor.
Then, go on from there to do your custom adjustments.

I do not ever do 75MPH at 70 degrees lean angle so, I do not need a pair of floppy saggy tires. Furthermore, I do not want to see my bike's MPG losing out to a Toyota Corolla. :ROFLMAO:
 

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What tire pressure do you guys run on the streets? I have a 17 CBR1000RR, I keep my pressure what listed on the swingarm, but it seems sport riders, run less pressure than what listed on swingarm, I know on the track your suppose to run lower pressure, just curious what you guys, run on the streets,
I start at 30/30 cold on my ‘07 for pretty aggressive canyon riding in Northern Commiefornia. DunlopQ3+ tires. I weigh about 180 pounds in full gear. Dave Moss has set my bike up. BTW, he lives in NorCal...
 

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I start at 30/30 cold on my ‘07 for pretty aggressive canyon riding in Northern Commiefornia. DunlopQ3+ tires. I weigh about 180 pounds in full gear. Dave Moss has set my bike up. BTW, he lives in NorCal...
Oh really, what locations did Dave Moss set up your bike? Does he do work in Northern California? Thanks for the reply.
 

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Interesting that Dave Moss has created a market for himself (by identifying a problem for a niche application and creating a lot of dissatisfaction with your current setup).
What exactly is his credentials besides having the ability to make fairly good teaching videos on YouTube?
 

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Interesting that Dave Moss has created a market for himself (by identifying a problem for a niche application and creating a lot of dissatisfaction with your current setup).
What exactly is his credentials besides having the ability to make fairly good teaching videos on YouTube?
 

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I am still waiting for Dave to share why he tells people that M1 is corrupted and to use M2 to store suspension setup in on the SP/SP2.

As for tire pressures on the swing-arm, they are max safe cold operating pressure when bike is fully loaded at max capacity - those numbers have no bearing on performance.

As for Dave's credentials, much like me, he knows what he's talking about and people can choose to either listen or ignore what we say. :ROFLMAO::unsure::coffee:
 

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I went for my first track day a few weeks ago and pumped up the tires what the manual said:

Front Cold tire
Up to 90 kg (200 Ibs) load 250 kPa (2.50 kgflcm'. 36 psi)
Up to maximum weight capacity 250 kPa (2.50 kgl/cm' . 36 psi)

Rear Cold tire
Up to 90 kg (200 Ibs) load 290 kPa (2.90 kgl/cm' . 42 psi) - pressure
Up to maximum weig ht capacity 290 kPa (2.90 kgl/cm .42 psi)

When I got to the track, the tech inspector kinda laughed and said, lower both to 30.

after some digging later on, I found a .pdf from Bridgestone, I have S22s, for what they recommend for "Track Day"

For S22 Front, 120/70ZR17 they recommend 30
For S22 Rear, 190/55ZR17 they recommend 26

just to show the big difference between what Honda says and what tire manufacturer says.

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My SC77 came with the tires at 38F and 45R LOL

I set them to 34F 36R for "fun" street riding. Feels good so far.
 
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If you are just daily commuting the Honda recommended 36f/42r will be fine for most as it will give you maximum tire life. It is really a catch-all setting recommendation to cover any and all riders and situations.

When you start pushing the bike and your riding ability, change tires, or want a better feel and more grip is when you need to abandon the recommended pressure settings and optimize the settings for you.

I have gone through countless hours of trial and error setting changes and after doing so don't see how anyone is happy with 36f/42r.
The ride is rough, traction is limited, and the feel when pushing the bike at lean makes me uneasy. At 34f/32r I'm still getting 6k out of my rear and 9k plus out of my front on Pirelli Diablo Rosso III which I'm just fine with

It really is personal preference but I would recommend to everyone that you try different pressure settings and find what you feel comfortable with as that is all that really matters. If you feel confident in the feel, grip, and feedback at certain settings then they are correct for you.
 

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As for Dave's credentials, much like me, he knows what he's talking about and people can choose to either listen or ignore what we say. :ROFLMAO::unsure::coffee:
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Sometimes, it's good to see some strong doses of opposing opinions, just to serve as validations for your own.
 
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