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We started shipping a new harness for part #16-002 which is for the 2009 CBR1000RR PCV. Unfortunately the harness was made incorrectly and we did not catch it before it shipped. About a 150 got shipped out with this error. With the harness wired incorrectly the bike will not start. It is an easy fix if you feel comfortable moving the pins in the subconnector. If not the unit will need to be sent in and we will modify the harness for you.

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I have one coming tomorrow. Do you have something to show what needs to be changed just in case mine is affected?
 

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The units affected are serial numbers starting with 090302 & connectors that look like this




The previous units that have the individual injector connectors are ok
 

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Cylinders #1 and #4 still use the injector connectors. But #2 & #3 AND the TPS connectors go thru a subconnector. This makes the install much easier as you don't have to access the TPS sensor on the right side of the throttle bodies. See the pic from LDH.

The updated guide should now be on the site.
 

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You can not go by that batch # as we have already updated the ones we have in stock. If there is any question look at the PCV connector and if the wire orientation matches this picture then it is CORRECT. If you are going to modify your harness yourself make sure to alter both the female and male connector.
 

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You can not go by that batch # as we have already updated the ones we have in stock. If there is any question look at the PCV connector and if the wire orientation matches this picture then it is CORRECT. If you are going to modify your harness yourself make sure to alter both the female and male connector.
OK, I'm so pissed right now!!! I went and had my PCV overnighted to me. So I could install it last night. (Friday night) So I could have it installed and ready for Saturday morning. I had to set up an appointment for the dyno tuning. But just as I was disassembling the bike. I remembered reading somewhere on here about the wire harness not being correct. So I dropped everything I was doing and got on here. And.............. What do you know! Mine is the one that was affected.:whyme::whyme:

So my question is............. They say its an easy fix. are the saying cut my into my harness and switch the wires. and reconnect them with bullet butt connectors? or solder and heat shrink? or is there a way to release the pins out of the plug? and just move them to their correct location.


Somebody PLEASE help!!! If I can get this done soon enough. i may be able to salvage this day.

Thank You.
 

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Update on site

And I looked all over their site to find out about this update, and how to perform the procedure I could not find it.
 

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OK, I'm so pissed right now!!! I went and had my PCV overnighted to me. So I could install it last night. (Friday night) So I could have it installed and ready for Saturday morning. I had to set up an appointment for the dyno tuning. But just as I was disassembling the bike. I remembered reading somewhere on here about the wire harness not being correct. So I dropped everything I was doing and got on here. And.............. What do you know! Mine is the one that was affected.:whyme::whyme:

So my question is............. They say its an easy fix. are the saying cut my into my harness and switch the wires. and reconnect them with bullet butt connectors? or solder and heat shrink? or is there a way to release the pins out of the plug? and just move them to their correct location.


Somebody PLEASE help!!! If I can get this done soon enough. i may be able to salvage this day.

Thank You.
YES and YES.

See the post directly above your own. If you dont feel you have the requisite skills to make the correction, then you will have to send it back.
 

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Ok........ So no one on here knows how to release the pins to move them? I guess I may be sending this POS back to them!

Mr Dynojet, If you knew that there were issues with your harness. Why did you not inform your vendors about this issue? So you wouldnt have wrong harnesses just sitting on vendors shelves. So people like me who paid overnight charges to get something. would not have wasted extra money and time.

And one more thing! It would have been nice to had the correct instructions for my system in my box!!

I should not have to come on to a forum and get YOUR correct instructions. For an item that you sell.

This is what i was referring to.... http://www.powercommander.com/downloads/16-002/install/pcv/eng16-002.pdf

My instructions look nothing like this!!! They are VAGUE and AMBIGUOUS!

They ones that were posted on this site. were the correct ones. did the install in less than five minutes. just to see if maybe just maybe it would start.

But of course not. And now I have the auto tune coming on Tuesday. I wonder how that is going to go. your instructions NEED TO BE MORE INFORMATIVE!!!! even if it means printing in color. you could at least match the color of the wires in the diagram given.

Thank God for this forum! I would have never knew about these issues.
And most likely found a PCV thrown threw the wall.:whyme:
 

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On the connector in the pic shown, the gray piece in the front is the lock. That needs to be removed carefully, using some combination of pliers and small screwdrivers.
Once it is removed, you should be clearly able to see a latch holding each pin in. Lift the latch, and while the latch is lifted, pull the terminal out the back of the connector. Jewelers screwdrivers really help when it comes to lifting those.
 

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On the connector in the pic shown, the gray piece in the front is the lock. That needs to be removed carefully, using some combination of pliers and small screwdrivers.
Once it is removed, you should be clearly able to see a latch holding each pin in. Lift the latch, and while the latch is lifted, pull the terminal out the back of the connector. Jewelers screwdrivers really help when it comes to lifting those.
Thank you Brad. I did get the gray lock piece off. but I still could not see where it locks. (female end) I bought these precision flat head screwdrivers. very small ones. like an eyeglass screwdriver. Then I looked at the male end. and its totally different.:(:(

I'm just about to return it. Get my Money back. and go with the Bazzaz system.
I have had numerous power commanders over the years. So that is why I went with them. Tried an True! But I could not believe that they had put in the completely wrong directions for the wrong harness.
 

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BRAD YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!! I got it switched. Your directions helped so much!!!:th_salute::thumbsup: If any one needs help doing this. Just hit me up. I can give very explicit details on how to do this.

Now I'm about to go reinstall it and see if it works. Wish me luck! LOL!!!

And just one more question. If i have a map for my bike from DJ's website. But I have a z-bomb installed. Do I need to add or subtract anything from the map that was provided for my bike? Or it is just fine the way it is?

I sure hope I just saved myself a bunch of time.(actually brad did) And give this PCV a chance to redeem itself.

And on my questions. Do not tell me go search for it. or this has been beaten to death. I don't want to hear that CRAP! Its a simple yes or no answer. If you don't have something nice to say. then don't reply. If you feel like being informative. Then by all means reply. This is a forum, this what this place is for.
 

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Thanks Brad for helping Rodio and we do apologize for the issues. We updated this harness but unfortunately our production team did not send down a test harness (which is protocol) and did not tell us that it was put into production. This is why you got the old harness instructions. As soon as we realized the issue everyone that received an incorrect unit was notified. There is no way for us to let the dealers know that purchased it from our distributors which is why we posted here.

If you have the Zbomb or IRC then you should modify the map you are currently using. We recommend adding a value of 9 to your current cells from 10500 to redline.

There are colore updated install guides on the site if needed.
 

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Thanks Brad for helping Rodio and we do apologize for the issues. We updated this harness but unfortunately our production team did not send down a test harness (which is protocol) and did not tell us that it was put into production. This is why you got the old harness instructions. As soon as we realized the issue everyone that received an incorrect unit was notified. There is no way for us to let the dealers know that purchased it from our distributors which is why we posted here.

If you have the Zbomb or IRC then you should modify the map you are currently using. We recommend adding a value of 9 to your current cells from 10500 to redline.

There are colore updated install guides on the site if needed.
Thank You for your information on the Z-bomb Question.
I was just a little upset because I went with your product. Because I have had many of them before. And if there was ever a problem. Y'all took care of it. At no charge. So I stayed with what I knew.

I had waited for 3weeks for dyno time with this guy. To only have to miss it. Now Im on the list again. only a 1 week wait. Not so bad.

So sorry for me being upset. But that was the reason why.
 

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I would recommend adding the fuel from 9000-redline at the 100% section of the table. Even though the zbomb doesn't add any power below 10K, it does make things a little leaner.

Glad to see you got everything sorted out.
 

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If you have the Zbomb or IRC then you should modify the map you are currently using. We recommend adding a value of 9 to your current cells from 10500 to redline."

Is this still gonna be necessary to do when you are using the autotune feature?

And another thing is that I noticed was that the injector plugs on the PCV and as well as the PC3 does not come with the 2 little tits if you wanna call it that to align the injector dead center as the factory plugs do.
Wouldnt it be better to make them like oem plugs to make the injectors spray the way they were intended to rather than let the injector turn freely and take a chance for the injector to turn sidways and throw off the fuel spray?

If this makes any since.
 

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Necessary, no, but it would allow the Auto tune feature to optimize the map that much sooner.

We use this same connector on many models and other models do not use the locator tabs. It has not been an issue that I am aware of?
 
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