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Just throwing in an interesting tidbit here: I've been looking at early Honda Pan Euros, and this behemoth of a bike, at a wet weight of 730 lbs/330 kg, STILL recommends Honda's benchmark 36/42 pressures. WTF?
Go figure :unsure: .
 
Just throwing in an interesting tidbit here: I've been looking at early Honda Pan Euros, and this behemoth of a bike, at a wet weight of 730 lbs/330 kg, STILL recommends Honda's benchmark 36/42 pressures. WTF?
Go figure :unsure: .
The question in my mind is not the “Pan Euro” being 36/42. The question is why the CBR is that high. BTW, I had one....an ST1300 on this side of the pond. A very forgettable bike. I’ve owned several of the current Sport Touring bikes.
 
. . . BTW, I had one....an ST1300 on this side of the pond. A very forgettable bike. I’ve owned several of the current Sport Touring bikes.
Ooh, a fellow Pan Man.:) Yeah, I just purchased a 2001 1100 in reasonable condition which I collect tomorrow. Have to do a bit of work on the front forks and bolts from UK salted roads damage. Going to do some day trips that I prefer to not do on my good sports bikes. Plus, it'll be a bit of a project for me and perhaps prepare me for 'old age'.:)
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At the end of the day, there needs to be a balancing act among these trade-offs:
  1. longevity of tires
  2. performance at extreme lean angles under high speed conditions
  3. MPG
The owner decides what he/she wants and go on from there. A good starting point is the recommendations from the tire manufacturer (although not all publish these. Can't see any published by Pirelli).
 
Ooh, a fellow Pan Man.:) Yeah, I just purchased a 2001 1100 in reasonable condition which I collect tomorrow. Have to do a bit of work on the front forks and bolts from UK salted roads damage. Going to do some day trips that I prefer to not do on my good sports bikes. Plus, it'll be a bit of a project for me and perhaps prepare me for 'old age'.:)
Did you consider a Ninja 1000 for this? Oh, forget you are a Honda man. 🤣
 
The tire pressures on the car door jamb or bike swing arm or tire side wall are simply MAX operating values. That is all. They have no bearing on performance, tire life, heat cycles, top speed or even fuel consumption - they are simply max pressure at max load for the safety of the vehicle operator.
 
I'm sorry that I have to strongly disagree that it is the MAX. Based on most Owner's manual, they all say it is the recommended, not the MAX.
See attached from 2018 CBR1000RR Honda manual.
 

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Of course, Dave Moss, and all his believers will say that what Honda has recommended is absolutely 100% wrong.
It takes faith, followed by $$$, to believe in Dave Moss because if you need more of his preachings, you have to pay for it.
 
The tire pressures on the car door jamb or bike swing arm or tire side wall are simply MAX operating values. That is all. They have no bearing on performance, tire life, heat cycles, top speed or even fuel consumption - they are simply max pressure at max load for the safety of the vehicle operator.
Swingarm figures matches those in Owner's manual.
They are not MAX but recommended.
 

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They have no bearing on performance, tire life, heat cycles, top speed or even fuel consumption - they are simply max pressure at max load for the safety of the vehicle operator.
Really?

Tell me they are all wrong and hoaxes.
 
What facts?
The fact that the tire sidewall is not a recommended operating pressure but rather a max pressure for the max load as indicated?
I never offer any opinion that is not based in fact.

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You have changed your story, @RC45 .
Your original positing stated door jam and swing-arm stickers.
Now, you focus ONLY on tire walls.
 
I think I should logout from this Forum for while.
Contents, such as these, are often said most arrogantly like they are undeniable gospel and they cannot be challenged even when they are inaccurate.
 
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